Holy Fire

[Apotheoun]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzWU67o7oPk[/media]

[laetitia crucis]

That must have been AMAZING.

[size="1"]Edit: And VERY toasty.[/size]

Edited April 4, 2010 by laetitia crucis

[Resurrexi]

I read that the Latin Catholics at the Church of the Holy Sepulchre were formerly bound by the terms of the status quo to use the Roman Liturgy as it was in 1852, the year the status quo was made. Unfortunately, in 1997, the agreement was revised, permitting the Latin Catholics to use the Novus Ordo instead of the ancient Roman Liturgy.

Edited April 4, 2010 by Resurrexi

[Apotheoun]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LyddZgSqLY[/media]

Holy Fire arrives in Russia, and a segment on Easter eggs . . .

[Apotheoun]

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[img]http://www.patriarchia.ru/data/2010/04/04/1233599934/2NOV_1470.jpg[/img]

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[img]http://www.patriarchia.ru/data/2010/04/04/1233599675/6Z7V0197(11).jpg[/img]

[Apotheoun]

Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew celebrates Pascha:

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[Apotheoun]

Reuters report on the Holy Fire (with pictures):

[img]http://media.monstersandcritics.com/galleries/2213724_39313/0210328455085.jpg[/img]

[url="http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63218Q20100403"]Holy Fire brings Jerusalem Easter to joyful climax[/url]

[jeffpugh]

[quote name='Apotheoun' date='04 April 2010 - 04:33 PM' timestamp='1270413233' post='2086687']
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LyddZgSqLY[/media]

Holy Fire arrives in Russia, and a segment on Easter eggs . . .
[/quote]
What exactly is the miracle pertaining to the Holy Fire? Also, I like the bit on eggs. I remember learning about some of this stuff when I was younger, but it's much more profound now.

[laetitia crucis]

[quote name='Apotheoun' date='04 April 2010 - 05:46 PM' timestamp='1270413998' post='2086691']
Reuters report on the Holy Fire (with pictures):

[img]http://media.monstersandcritics.com/galleries/2213724_39313/0210328455085.jpg[/img]

[url="http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63218Q20100403"]Holy Fire brings Jerusalem Easter to joyful climax[/url]
[/quote]

That is gorgeous.

[zunshynn]

[quote name='Sacred Music Man' date='04 April 2010 - 03:41 PM' timestamp='1270417314' post='2086701']
What exactly is the miracle pertaining to the Holy Fire?
[/quote]

It's said that when the Patriarch goes into Christ's tomb with an unlit torch and prays there, fire descends from heaven to ignite it. He then passes the flame to an Armenian and a Greek prelate standing outside through a hole in the wall, and then they light the tapers of the faithful.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='zunshynn' date='05 April 2010 - 12:45 PM' timestamp='1270489546' post='2087030']
It's said that when the Patriarch goes into Christ's tomb with an unlit torch and prays there, fire descends from heaven to ignite it. He then passes the flame to an Armenian and a Greek prelate standing outside through a hole in the wall, and then they light the tapers of the faithful.
[/quote]
Plus, for some reason, only Orthodox patriarchs can obtain the fire. Not even Catholics can do the same.

I'm not exactly sure how to think about that.

[God Conquers]

Perhaps the pope could, being the patriarch of the west.

[God Conquers]

Also.... I REALLY want to know what those torches are and are made of... at the Way of the Cross at the Coliseum there were two huge ones being held beside the cross as it made its way around. The looked so awesome.

[zunshynn]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='05 April 2010 - 12:05 PM' timestamp='1270490726' post='2087045']
Plus, for some reason, only Orthodox patriarchs can obtain the fire. Not even Catholics can do the same.

I'm not exactly sure how to think about that.
[/quote]

I don't think Catholic bishops have ever really taken part in the ceremony. The different churches generally have their own ceremonies for the Holy Fire. I'm sure there have been Catholics that have gone/go to the Orthodox ceremony, but we have our own.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='zunshynn' date='05 April 2010 - 01:14 PM' timestamp='1270491241' post='2087053']
I don't think Catholic bishops have ever really taken part in the ceremony. The different churches generally have their own ceremonies for the Holy Fire. I'm sure there have been Catholics that have gone/go to the Orthodox ceremony, but we have our own.
[/quote]
I read that during the Crusades, Catholics failed to obtain the Holy Fire.

I don't have a source for that, but maybe Apotheoun can comment.