missionseeker Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 Dear Pham, I have never really found myself in a position where evangelizing has been a really big thing.I've found myself in the random Catholic vs. Protestant debate, but never really been in a place where my witnessing could either help people return to faith or hinder them from doing so. But recently, I have found that I am. Which leads me to all sorts of questions, lol. Two of my (fellow students and) coworkers and I have found ourselves blessed with the opportunity to "lead" (for lack of a better word) back home. One (D) is a 17 year old girl, who kind of looks up to us in a way. I don't think she's ever had much formal training in the faith at all. For example, she didn't even know that Friday was Good Friday until her mother told her to stop cleaning the house because it was Good Friday. At the same time, she gave up meat for Lent. I can't even do that. She went with two of the girls to Mass last Sunday (and said she wanted to go with us every week)and said to the girls "I should go up to communion should I, because I haven't been to Mass in years?" The other is really different. He's older than we are, works three jobs, goes to school and supports his family in a different country. He was received in the Church (baptized and all) and couple years ago, but as long as I've know him (October of 2008) he's never been to Mass. He went with me tonight. After D went with them last Sunday he seemed more interested. I'm not sure if this because he misses Mass or because we were so excited or what. Anywho, I was talking today about how much I was excited for the Easter Vigil and about how wonderful it is, and he was like "I will go". I even told him it would be three hours. Anyway, I was able to change before Mass, but he was in his uniform and he wasn't really ... comfortable? He said 'I may leave" but after the first responsorial psalm, he looked at me and said "I will stay" I really do think he was touched by it. I told him that there is an 8am Mass on Sundays that I go to if I work all day Sunday (we start at nine) and he said he could probably go to that "no promises, though" So anyway... I know that one little thing can end progress, but.. I'm just unsure of how to be like "You should go to Mass with me" every week, without being... a hinderance and such. that kind of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Conquers Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 I think the thing of first thing is to continue being a friend. If they know you are really their friend, then nothing you say (unless you're really mean!!) will be a hindrance. Second thing: invite, invite, invite. Just invite every week. Mention that you go every week, and tell them why (because you're supposed to and you believe it!) The third thing, but most important, is to find out where they are at with Jesus. Have they made a decision to live their faith (follow Christ) as an adult and to do it consistently. I know you said this man was just received into the Church, but from the sound of it, he didn't really make the decision to live it out. I was a missionary for 4 years with college students. Inviting them to make a decision to place Jesus at the center of their lives is absolutely the most effective way to see them returning to mass, receiving the sacraments and beginning a prayer life. Unless you have that personal relationship, and make that personal decision, they will not get the rest and won't be faithful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionseeker Posted April 4, 2010 Author Share Posted April 4, 2010 Thanks. That's helpful. The next step is confession. D has mentioned it. Idk about the other. I might I get a priest that he knows and who is pretty awesome and who saw him Mass tonight to mention it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Normile Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 I would not say you have to go to confession, you may say something like now that you are going to mass you are able to receive the gift of reconciliation and penance, especially if you want to receive the greatest gift, the Body and Blood of Christ in the Eucharist. I will pray for you and your friends, what a blessing for you to be able to help two souls come before God. ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 That second guy is a man of few words were i in their situation i would really appreciate a friend like you Cat. aside from here on PM i basically have no one to talk religion etc with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Conquers Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 [quote name='missionseeker' date='04 April 2010 - 02:46 AM' timestamp='1270363578' post='2086487'] Thanks. That's helpful. The next step is confession. D has mentioned it. Idk about the other. I might I get a priest that he knows and who is pretty awesome and who saw him Mass tonight to mention it. [/quote] For confession, I usually mention that I'm going and invite to come along. Either that or pray for an opportunity, and it will come. For instance people very often share about things which they need to get off their chest... perfect oppportunity to say: "this is how I deal with things like this..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionseeker Posted April 4, 2010 Author Share Posted April 4, 2010 He promised to go with me at 8 am on Sunday. I think Daisy did, too, but I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ora et Labora Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 It's really weird because I find myself in the "Catholic vs. Protestant" arguments very often! ! They think their being "helpful" but instead they often "hinder." And that leaves me to the point that I almost never explain my side because I don't want to be as utterly annoying and "holier then thou" as they are to me. Where's the balance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 [quote name='Ora et Labora' date='04 April 2010 - 11:29 PM' timestamp='1270441773' post='2086811'] It's really weird because I find myself in the "Catholic vs. Protestant" arguments very often! ! They think their being "helpful" but instead they often "hinder." And that leaves me to the point that I almost never explain my side because I don't want to be as utterly annoying and "holier then thou" as they are to me. Where's the balance? [/quote] The arguments do all tend to ring with self-righteousness, don't they? I had a friend in junior high and high school that I stopped talking to entirely because she tried to turn every single conversation into a religious or political debate (she was a very liberal Christian). It was croutons. After a while I just wouldn't give her anything to go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ora et Labora Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='05 April 2010 - 12:48 AM' timestamp='1270442897' post='2086813'] The arguments do all tend to ring with self-righteousness, don't they? I had a friend in junior high and high school that I stopped talking to entirely because she tried to turn every single conversation into a religious or political debate (she was a very liberal Christian). It was croutons. After a while I just wouldn't give her anything to go on. [/quote] On Friday night one of my Protestant friends introduced me to her friend that's also Protestant. In one hour he talked so much and had so little substance to his words, I was amazed. He knew I was Catholic yet he made comments like "Catholics do NOT have a Christian nature," or "Catholic priests should be married, because that's why they molest boys!" He knew so little, yet she was enamored by him. I don't know how! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 [quote name='Ora et Labora' date='04 April 2010 - 11:56 PM' timestamp='1270443413' post='2086815'] On Friday night one of my Protestant friends introduced me to her friend that's also Protestant. In one hour he talked so much and had so little substance to his words, I was amazed. He knew I was Catholic yet he made comments like "Catholics do NOT have a Christian nature," or "Catholic priests should be married, because that's why they molest boys!" He knew so little, yet she was enamored by him. I don't know how! [/quote] ...but God help you if you try to address even a single one of their points. It's a battle that can't be won with logic, it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ora et Labora Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 And I think I explain it well most of the time. They just don't wanna see the whole picture. It's sad. I just stop caring about making my point known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionseeker Posted April 5, 2010 Author Share Posted April 5, 2010 [quote]But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect,[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Gentleness and respect........ I like that very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccountDeleted Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='05 April 2010 - 05:22 PM' timestamp='1270444932' post='2086826'] Gentleness and respect........ I like that very much. [/quote] Me too, but I think sometimes I have a problem with this when dealing with Catholics. I guess I expect them to know their faith and when they start spouting all kinds of liberal theology at me, I get a bit preachy back. I need to learn when to just keep my mouth shut and let God instruct them. Gentleness and respect..... yes, lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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