Health Care Vote Exposes Myth Of Pro Life Democrat

[Saint Therese]

<h1 id="yn-title">Schlafly: Health Care Vote Set to Expose the Myth of the 'Pro-Life Democrat'</h1> Sun Mar 21, 5:58 pm ET WASHINGTON, March 21 –

WASHINGTON, March 21 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Phyllis Schlafly, president and founder of the conservative grassroots public policy organization Eagle Forum, made the following remarks after the public announcement that formerly pro-life Democrat Bart Stupak (D-MI) will cast a "yes" vote for the Senate health care bill today in the House: "It is naive for any elected official, especially one who describes himself as 'pro-life,' to expect that a promise to issue an Executive Order that reasserts the intentions of the Hyde Amendment will be fulfilled by the most pro-abortion president to ever sit in the White House.Perhaps Mr. Stupak and his fellow pro-life Democrats forget thatPresident Obama's first Executive Order was the repeal of the Mexico City Policy to allow for international funding of abortion."

"Not only would an Executive Order be rendered meaningless in the faceof Congress passing legislation which actively provides for the massiveexpansion and funding of abortion services, but anyone who doubts theabortion tsunami which awaits this bill becoming law lives in a fantasyworld."

"Barack Obamahas lined every existing federal agency with the most dedicatedpro-abortion ideologues, and we know that he will continue this patternof pro-abortion appointments when it comes time for him to fill theover-100 bureaucracies created to administer his socialized health care program."

"Any formerly pro-life Democrat who casts a 'Yes' vote for this Senatehealth care bill tonight will be forever remembered as being among thedeciding votes which facilitated the largest expansion of abortionservices since Roe v. Wade."

"Mr. Stupak and his Democrat followers have now clarified that youcannot be pro-life and be a Democrat. If abortion was truly theirbiggest issue, they wouldn't willfully align themselves with the Partyof Death."

"This vote will expose the myth of the 'pro-life Democrat.' With this single vote, the Democratic Party will divide our nation into the Party of Death and the Party of Life, and future elections will never be the same."

CONTACT: Suzanne Bibby, (610) 608-6303

SOURCE Phyllis Schlafly

[kamiller42]

Finding a pro-life democrat is like trying to find a God fearing atheist.

[Saint Therese]

These people think they can mock God with impunity. What will they say to Him when they are in front of him, and He is on the throne of judgement?

[CatherineM]

I'm a Pro-Life Democrat.

[Jaime]

[quote name='CatherineM' date='22 March 2010 - 07:06 PM' timestamp='1269299204' post='2077989']
I'm a Pro-Life Democrat.
[/quote]

I love this woman!


(purely platonic! I don't want to tick off your husband)

[CatherineM]

[quote name='hot stuff' date='22 March 2010 - 06:09 PM' timestamp='1269299353' post='2077990']
(purely platonic! I don't want to tick off your husband)
[/quote]
That's wise. He's a pretty big guy.

[BG45]

I'm apparently a myth as well Catherine, being yet another pro-Life Democrat.

[Vincent Vega]

I dislike Stupak being called a traitor/sellout/babykiller/etc.
He got Obama to sign an executive order saying that federal money would not go for abortions.

Ok, so say Obama renigs that tomorrow. Who does that look worse on, Stupak or Obama? Who created the empty promises, Stupak or Obama? And who's to say that Obama will go back on his offer anyway? He might, but if he doesn't, the naysayers will look powerfully foolish, real quick.

Oh and by the way, Fair Phyllis, the Republican Party is not the "Party of Life", dear. It's the Party of Slightly Less Lukewarm Sellouts.

Edited March 23, 2010 by USAirwaysIHS

[Jesus_lol]

[quote name='CatherineM' date='22 March 2010 - 04:06 PM' timestamp='1269299204' post='2077989']
I'm a Pro-Life Democrat.
[/quote]


[quote name='BG45' date='22 March 2010 - 05:06 PM' timestamp='1269302786' post='2078025']
I'm apparently a myth as well Catherine, being yet another pro-Life Democrat.
[/quote]


[quote name='kamiller42' date='22 March 2010 - 07:58 AM' timestamp='1269269916' post='2077549']
Finding a pro-life democrat is like trying to find a God fearing atheist.
[/quote]

just because it isnt quite as common, doesnt mean the two arent perfectly compatible together, being pro life and liberal. i think you might find that people who truly "toe the party line" like yourself apparently, and fall in line perfectly with every facet of a political party's stated views, are actually in the minority.

and here is another Pro Life Democrat. three in less than 2 hours??? you should go unicorn hunting! and searching for leprechauns at the end of rainbows! your luck is amazing today!

[quote name='USAirwaysIHS' date='22 March 2010 - 05:12 PM' timestamp='1269303131' post='2078033']
I dislike Stupak being called a traitor/sellout/babykiller/etc.
He got Obama to sign an executive order saying that federal money would not go for abortions.

Ok, so say Obama renigs that tomorrow. Who does that look worse on, Stupak or Obama? Who created the empty promises, Stupak or Obama? And who's to say that Obama will go back on his offer anyway? He might, but if he doesn't, the naysayers will look powerfully foolish, real quick.

Oh and by the way, Fair Phyllis, the Republican Party is not the "Party of Life", dear. It's the Party of Slightly Less Lukewarm Sellouts.
[/quote]

Agreed on all counts. you cant win every battle, and it seems he did what he had to do.

Edited March 23, 2010 by Jesus_lol

[thessalonian]

stupak's been had. He was told this before the vote and refused to believe it. The US Bishops had their legal experts check it out and an executive order has not authority when issued against legislation.

http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2010/03/21/us-catholic-bishops-executive-order-deal-a-non-starter/

We've all been had.

[kamiller42]

[quote name='Jesus_lol' date='22 March 2010 - 09:13 PM' timestamp='1269306826' post='2078062']
just because it isnt quite as common, doesnt mean the two arent perfectly compatible together, being pro life and liberal. i think you might find that people who truly "toe the party line" like yourself apparently, and fall in line perfectly with every facet of a political party's stated views, are actually in the minority.

and here is another Pro Life Democrat. three in less than 2 hours??? you should go unicorn hunting! and searching for leprechauns at the end of rainbows! your luck is amazing today!
[/quote]
My party is the conservative party, a defender of the right to life, a federalist, a fan of the principle of subsidiarity. The democrat party is almost an exact polar opposite if those ideals. I can't say the republicans entirely embracing those ideas, but they are more inline with them than the democrats.

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='kamiller42' date='22 March 2010 - 08:49 PM' timestamp='1269312551' post='2078119']
My party is the conservative party, a defender of the right to life, a federalist, a fan of the principle of subsidiarity. The democrat party is almost an exact polar opposite if those ideals. I can't say the republicans entirely embracing those ideas, but they are more inline with them than the democrats.
[/quote]
Well said again. The Democrats are many things, but they are most certainly not constitutional federalists.

[Ed Normile]

[quote name='Apotheoun' date='22 March 2010 - 11:58 PM' timestamp='1269320336' post='2078191']
Well said again. The Democrats are many things, but they are most certainly not constitutional federalists.
[/quote]


True, I am a conservative also, I actually voted for John Mccain, not that I liked all his views, just for the fact that he always voted pro-life. Thats important too me, I guess pro-death was more important to Obama supporters, as he has not done anything he did not promise even before he was a senator, let alone during his presidential campaign, I guess that is why the Pope asked catholics to vote against Obama, shame that over 52% of catholics reportedly voted for him proving they could not even follow the Pope's wishes on something as important as the life of a yet to be born human child. I would assume the catholics who voted for him would have far more to answer for before God than any deluded liberal that probably has either no faith or at least no true belief in God, judging by their backing of a man who is so far left on all issues, and one who is especially into the "fraternity of death" a term I use, which to me, describes abortion providers and abortion rights activists.

ed

[kamiller42]

I would like to hear from a pro-life democrat how the democrat party is uniquely pro-life. Here are the rules:

1. It has to be a life issue a majority of the democrat party supports and the republicans do not. For example, don't say "they support medical care for everyone." The assumption there is the republicans do not. Both parties want medical care for everyone. They just see different ways at arriving there. And you can't say "there are 5 of them who do not want federal funds to go to abortion." 5 is not representative of a party. That's an anomaly.

2. It has to be realized legislation, not media perceptions or hypotheticals.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='kamiller42' date='23 March 2010 - 12:45 AM' timestamp='1269323109' post='2078213']
I would like to hear from a pro-life democrat how the democrat party is uniquely pro-life. Here are the rules:

1. It has to be a life issue a majority of the democrat party supports and the republicans do not. For example, don't say "they support medical care for everyone." The assumption there is the republicans do not. Both parties want medical care for everyone. They just see different ways at arriving there. And you can't say "there are 5 of them who do not want federal funds to go to abortion." 5 is not representative of a party. That's an anomaly.

2. It has to be realized legislation, not media perceptions or hypotheticals.
[/quote]
There are only five "pro-life" democrats? Wow, that's literally not even statistically significant.