Brother Adam Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 You don't even want to know what we had to pay every paycheck for the 3 months we were on it. In that time we lost our car and was almost evicted waiting to be removed from health insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 [quote name='Tony' date='21 March 2010 - 06:53 PM' timestamp='1269211996' post='2077161'] Didn't obama basically bribe people to vote for the bill? if so, is that legal? [/quote] And don't think that there haven't been lots of cushy ambassadorships offered to House members who will inevitably lose their seats... "Hey, don't worry about that Nov. election. Just vote with us and Obama's got a nice job for you in Malta." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 [quote name='homeschoolmom' date='21 March 2010 - 07:11 PM' timestamp='1269213119' post='2077175'] And don't think that there haven't been lots of cushy ambassadorships offered to House members who will inevitably lose their seats... "Hey, don't worry about that Nov. election. Just vote with us and Obama's got a nice job for you in Malta." [/quote] Jennie and I were just talking about Malta the other day. Funny you mention it. It's not brought up all that often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 Malta. Malta... Malta... I'd like a nice chocolate Malta. Malta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XIX Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='21 March 2010 - 06:38 PM' timestamp='1269207527' post='2077110'] Sounds like bad news that the health care bill will pass now. Sadly, I will lose even more money when the government charges me a tax penalty for not buying health insurance. [/quote] This is probably true, but this is small beans compared to the damage that was [i]hopefully [/i]saved by the Hyde amendment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Conquers Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 $680 a month!?!?!?!? That's insane!!!!!! That's more than I pay in RENT! Can it possibly be worth it? Thank God I only pay..... croutons - %50 of my salary in taxes. Yay socialized medicine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 [quote name='God Conquers' date='21 March 2010 - 07:50 PM' timestamp='1269215451' post='2077209'] $680 a month!?!?!?!? That's insane!!!!!! That's more than I pay in RENT! Can it possibly be worth it? Thank God I only pay..... croutons - %50 of my salary in taxes. Yay socialized medicine! [/quote] You know, this is one place where the fil[i][/i]ter really bothers me. When you say you pay croutons, it makes it sound like exactly the opposite of what you mean... 50% of my income and 50% of Jen's income gone but free healthcare (yeah, right) would still kill us. If we got our student loans paid off, then we'd be okay with it, but she could never be a stay at home mom. This bill passes and we'll probably have to move in with her dad...which is nuts because the two of us together make a decent wage for a family just starting out...about 54k/year (before taxes). On an odd and completely irrelevant sidenote, all my mainstream channels just went out. No ABC, NBC, CBS, or Fox. I wonder if Obama's trying to mute out the opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 If you are a member of the working poor like me, you best take out any monies that you may have in a saving account, because the IRS will be in charge of confirming on a monthly basis whether or not a person has health insurance, and so it follows that they (i.e., the IRS) will have the power to issue levies against you and even access your bank accounts in order to penalize you if you do not have an approved health plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='21 March 2010 - 08:50 PM' timestamp='1269219004' post='2077235'] If you are a member of the working poor like me, you best take out any monies that you may have in a saving account, because the IRS will be in charge of confirming on a monthly basis whether or not a person has health insurance, and so it follows that they (i.e., the IRS) will have the power to issue levies against you and even access your bank accounts in order to penalize you if you do not have an approved health plan. [/quote] George Orwell was 26 years early in his predictions, but it sounds like he had his head on straight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 What is truly sad is that Americans once said "Give me liberty or give me death," but now most Americans say instead, "Give me cable TV or I will be unhappy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggyie Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 I don't think the President is controlling your TV set.... it's the aliens... I'm willing to wait and see what happens. I was mostly worried about abortion being covered but if this report is true - and it seems to be - the status quo will be maintained. My mother has Medicare and it works pretty well for her and the world didn't end when it was shoved through in the 60s. Then again there is a LOT of red tape involved with it and it is hard to understand what benefits she actually has. I think the Pope/the bishops have said that health care is a right, haven't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 As far as waiting to see what happens is concerned, we are all in that boat, but the new law does empower the IRS to confirm health coverage on a monthly basis, and I do not really want the IRS that involved in my day to day life. I will not buy health insurance mandated by the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivingStone Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Do we know what the ramifications of this bill passing in the House in regards to abortion yet? I've been looking for stuff on Catholic News sites but there hasn't been too much helpful so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintOfVirtue Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 The Hyde Amendment is not in the Health Care Bill. Its liberal propaganda to try and make the bill seem more appealing to pro-life democrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivingStone Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 What does that leave us with the specs on the abortion issues with this health care bill being passed this evening by the House? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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