HisChildForever Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='08 March 2010 - 02:01 PM' timestamp='1268074909' post='2068934'] One could argue that the roles on a biological level arise from a more basic reality and are a reflection of something deeper. I don't know though, not something I've studied before. [/quote] If we are ruled by our sex, then are we not merely animals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 [quote name='HisChildForever' date='08 March 2010 - 01:04 PM' timestamp='1268075060' post='2068936'] If we are ruled by our sex, then are we not merely animals? [/quote] That's not even close to what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='08 March 2010 - 02:06 PM' timestamp='1268075193' post='2068938'] That's not even close to what I said. [/quote] Did I say that you said that? No. I posed a question in response. You missed my post before that one, which imo is more worthy to look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I think that the physical receptivity of the wife during the conjugal act, in which she receives the seed of her husband, is being confused with volitional passivity on her part. The marital embrace involves synergy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 [quote name='HisChildForever' date='08 March 2010 - 01:12 PM' timestamp='1268075547' post='2068942'] Did I say that you said that? No. I posed a question in response. You missed my post before that one, which imo is more worthy to look at. [/quote] In that case, I'd probably agree. If we're ruled entirely by our sex, then we're rather less than human. I'd definitely suggest that our physical sex and our gender as a whole are reflective of a deeper spiritual reality, which, yes, does include differences between man and woman, both in gender roles and psychological tendencies, etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='08 March 2010 - 02:13 PM' timestamp='1268075626' post='2068945'] I think that the physical receptivity of the wife during the conjugal act, in which she receives the seed of her husband, is being confused with volitional passivity on her part. The marital embrace involves synergy. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='08 March 2010 - 01:13 PM' timestamp='1268075626' post='2068945'] I think that the physical receptivity of the wife during the conjugal act, in which she receives the seed of her husband, is being confused with volitional passivity on her part. The marital embrace involves synergy. [/quote] I think you're probably right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='08 March 2010 - 02:16 PM' timestamp='1268075777' post='2068949'] In that case, I'd probably agree. If we're ruled entirely by our sex, then we're rather less than human. I'd definitely suggest that our physical sex and our gender as a whole are reflective of a deeper spiritual reality, which, yes, does include differences between man and woman, both in gender roles and [b]psychological tendencies[/b], etc.. [/quote] Ah yes. More men that women are diagnosed as sociopaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 [quote name='HisChildForever' date='08 March 2010 - 01:17 PM' timestamp='1268075850' post='2068954'] Ah yes. More men that women are diagnosed as sociopaths. [/quote] Probably because there are more male psychiatrists than female, and males are pretty much in the dark when it comes to understanding the female mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='08 March 2010 - 02:19 PM' timestamp='1268075971' post='2068959'] Probably because there are more male psychiatrists than female, and [b]since the male mind is so simple[/b] males are pretty much in the dark when it comes to understanding the female mind. [/quote] I fixed it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I thought that part was just a given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Well, I thought it best to clarify. Since I am speaking to a male and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 <---- guy <---- girl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 <--- HCF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbTherese Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Socrates' date='09 March 2010 - 05:22 AM' timestamp='1268074345' post='2068928'] How did this go from being a discussion of God's Divine Fatherhood to a discussion of who does what in bed? [/quote] This puzzled me too! I am so far from any sort of theological and philosophical know how that it just aint funny. I look on it this way though. The Father loves The Son and this Love between them is The Holy Spirit. This is a reflection of human sexual love and the conceiving of a child. In this image there is imaged complete equality between husband and wife, child - not in roles for they differ as with The Blessed Trinity but in status as in The Blessed Trinity there are Three Really Distinct Persons equal in all things but One God. Hence there are three roles in mother, father and child all completely distinct roles - but only one humanity equal in all things. In other words, someone said that human sexual love reflects a deeper reality. What this thread at times seems to be struggling to prove is that one role is more important than another. I think that all roles in life everywhere are equally important - but we share a common humanity........there is one humanity, one human nature. Have mercy! and blessings this Lent - Barb Edited March 8, 2010 by BarbaraTherese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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