If You Could Design A Habit...

[Tridenteen]

[quote name='laetitia crucis' date='03 March 2010 - 09:15 PM' timestamp='1267668907' post='2066253']
I have no idea why all that was in the quote box.

Anyhoo -- first off, I must say I LOVE the names you gave to each branch!!! Beautiful and oh-so-appropriate!

Secondly, I [i]heart[/i] the symbolism in your ideal habit. Just beautiful!!! I think my favorite bit you described is the twice-wrapped cord around the waist! Hypostatic union -- represent!!!

And I'm all in favor of cape-wearing Postulants. Though I'd totally want the veil instead of a bonnet.

Like this:

[img]http://www.dominicansrs.co.uk/News/Images_NEWS/Margarita%20Past/source/image/03._entered_as_a__postulant____1st_august_1957_(photo_taken_september).jpg[/img]
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JMJ
Thanks! I feel silly, my friends and I had gotteb carried away and wrote up brief costitutipns for each branch. Now that I look at them, a lot of their ideas were actually pretty interesting. What order does the postulant in the picture belong to?

[laetitia crucis]

[quote name='Tridenteen' date='04 March 2010 - 03:44 PM' timestamp='1267731873' post='2066576']
JMJ
Thanks! I feel silly, my friends and I had gotteb carried away and wrote up brief costitutipns for each branch. Now that I look at them, a lot of their ideas were actually pretty interesting. What order does the postulant in the picture belong to?
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That postulant is Sr. Margarita Schwind, OP -- she was one of the founding Sisters of the [url="http://www.dominicansrs.co.uk"]Dominican Sisters of St. Joseph[/url]. The picture is from a [url="http://dominicansrs.co.uk/News/Images_NEWS/Margarita%20Past/index.htm"]collection of pictures[/url] celebrating her Jubilee last year.

I can't remember the name of her original community, though I believe it was based in Germany and sent Sisters to mission South Africa.

Hmmm... now I'm curious!

The Dominican Sisters of St. Joseph, however, do not have postulant habits like the one pictured above, but instead ones that pretty much look just like the Nashville Dominicans' postulant habits. Originally they had navy blue skirts and vests like the Sisters of Life and DSMME, but then went back to black "because it was more Dominican -- black and white".

Like this:

[IMG]http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy305/laetitia_crucis/Random/nashvillepostulants.jpg[/IMG]

[Indwelling Trinity]

[quote name='vee8' date='03 March 2010 - 11:56 PM' timestamp='1267674981' post='2066339']
My novice habit would look like this and the habit of the fully professed is in the back

Laughing... hey that my habit she's wearing!!! LOL:shock: sighs... I wondered wher I had misplaced the other one.
[img]http://www.miamiarchdiocese.org/Atimo_s/news/_vows0018.jpg[/img]
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[brightsadness]

[quote name='Tridenteen' date='03 March 2010 - 06:39 PM' timestamp='1267666742' post='2066232']
JMJ
This looks, Byzantine? What order?
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Russian Orthodox Monastic

[laetitia crucis]

[quote name='vee8' date='03 March 2010 - 11:56 PM' timestamp='1267674981' post='2066339']
My novice habit would look like this and the habit of the fully professed is in the back
[img]http://www.miamiarchdiocese.org/Atimo_s/news/_vows0018.jpg[/img]
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*happy sigh*

I've always loved the beige Carmelite capes (mantles?). So pretty.

[Tridenteen]

[quote name='laetitia crucis' date='04 March 2010 - 04:02 PM' timestamp='1267736576' post='2066653']
*happy sigh* [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/love.gif[/img]

I've always loved the beige Carmelite capes (mantles?). So pretty.
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JMJ
When we went to one of the girl's from my community's first profession in Valparaiso, she had her cape, that veil that goes over the one underneath, and her crown of flowers. So beautiful. The Carmelite habit is so pretty. I love the guimpe underneath the scapular.

[vee]

[quote]Laughing... hey that my habit she's wearing!!! LOL sighs... I wondered wher I had misplaced the other one.[img]public/style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif[/img][/quote]

I thought this was your other habit?

[img]http://www.cyberfx.com/pic_pages/pics/ranger.jpg[/img]

[vee]

[quote name='Tridenteen' date='04 March 2010 - 04:57 PM' timestamp='1267739844' post='2066702']
JMJ
When we went to one of the girl's from my community's first profession in Valparaiso, she had her cape, that veil that goes over the one underneath, and her crown of flowers. So beautiful. The Carmelite habit is so pretty. I love the guimpe underneath the scapular.
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I really like the idea of having the scapular over everything too so if I was designing my own habit that would be a must. And while I think the Dominicans look great I would design my habit in brown, black, or anything dark because I am a magnet for stains.

[Indwelling Trinity]

[quote name='vee8' date='04 March 2010 - 08:10 PM' timestamp='1267747801' post='2066754']
I thought this was your other habit?



Nope those are my thermal underwear!

[img]http://www.cyberfx.com/pic_pages/pics/ranger.jpg[/img]
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Edited March 5, 2010 by Indwelling Trinity

[vee]

Hmm true it is too form fitting for a habit. We need action figures that wear something baggy.

[Muus]

[url="http://www.garlandsofgrace.com/products-page/classic-coverings/"]A suggestion for nice veils.[/url]

I'm looking for the 'toka' pattern (see the image). The SSVM sisters wear this under their veil. Also I'm looking for pattern of veils and maybe some habits? Do have someone some suggestions?

[img]http://www.bisdom-roermond.nl/albums/albums/Inkleding%20zusters%20Brunssum/Inkleding%20postulanten%20060.JPG[/img]

Edited April 28, 2010 by Muus

[laetitia crucis]

[quote name='Muus' date='28 April 2010 - 05:10 AM' timestamp='1272442212' post='2101464']
[url="http://www.garlandsofgrace.com/products-page/classic-coverings/"]A suggestion for nice veils.[/url]

I'm looking for the 'toka' pattern (see the image). The SSVM sisters wear this under their veil. Also I'm looking for pattern of veils and maybe some habits? Do have someone some suggestions?

[img]http://www.bisdom-roermond.nl/albums/albums/Inkleding%20zusters%20Brunssum/Inkleding%20postulanten%20060.JPG[/img]
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They make their own pattern for their tocas/caps. And it tends to vary a bit depending on how big one's ears are.

Hmmm...

When I first saw the toca/cap, my first thought was, "Amish bonnet!!!!" (True story.) So, here's [url="http://www.candleonthehill.net/store/catalog.php?item=61"]a pattern[/url] that I found to be the closest to what they have:

[img]http://www.candleonthehill.net/store/images/winterbonnetweb.jpg[/img]

The exceptions would be:
- white material (usually cotton)
- the band/brim goes forward more (and is a tad thinner than this picture), a bit past the hairline
- and bring the ties behind the neck instead of under the chin
- a rounded edge below the ears

You know, actually... I think if that bonnet was tilted about forward a few inches and tied in the back... that could be pretty accurate.

Ah, and there is no "poof" in the back.. the back lies flat against the head.

Always keep your ears covered and show no hair.

Hope that helps, Muus!

P.S. -- The veil is quite simple to make compared to the toca/cap. Perhaps you can ask one of the seamstress Sisters for a copy of the pattern they use? In the U.S. for quite some time, only one Sister knew how to make habits (minus veils). She'd spend about a week at the novitiate before Investiture sewing up a storm day and night. (It was REMARKABLE! To say the least, maté was a necessity of life during this week.) Now I think there may be a few others that have learned.

[IgnatiusofLoyola]

[quote name='Muus' date='28 April 2010 - 03:10 AM' timestamp='1272442212' post='2101464']
[url="http://www.garlandsofgrace.com/products-page/classic-coverings/"]A suggestion for nice veils.[/url]

I'm looking for the 'toka' pattern (see the image). The SSVM sisters wear this under their veil. Also I'm looking for pattern of veils and maybe some habits? Do have someone some suggestions?

[img]http://www.bisdom-roermond.nl/albums/albums/Inkleding%20zusters%20Brunssum/Inkleding%20postulanten%20060.JPG[/img]
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This isn't a pattern, but here is the page from Wright's catalog that shows several different types of simple tocas. It might give you some ideas that you could try to copy. [url="http://www.wrightscatalog.com/catalog.html"]http://www.wrightscatalog.com/catalog.html[/url]

[IgnatiusofLoyola]

[quote name='laetitia crucis' date='28 April 2010 - 07:19 AM' timestamp='1272457176' post='2101486']
The veil is quite simple to make compared to the toca/cap. Perhaps you can ask one of the seamstress Sisters for a copy of the pattern they use? In the U.S. for quite some time, only one Sister knew how to make habits (minus veils). She'd spend about a week at the novitiate before Investiture sewing up a storm day and night. (It was REMARKABLE! To say the least, maté was a necessity of life during this week.) Now I think there may be a few others that have learned. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif[/img]
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Now we know why the Nashville Dominicans have the postulants and novices each sew their own habits before their investiture. Besides the obvious benefit that it makes the habit more special if you make it yourself, it also means that a few sisters aren't sewing habits day and night. Also (and I hadn't thought of this before your post), it means that everyone in the Order knows how to make a habit!

[laetitia crucis]

[quote name='IgnatiusofLoyola' date='28 April 2010 - 01:19 PM' timestamp='1272471577' post='2101577']
Now we know why the Nashville Dominicans have the postulants and novices each sew their own habits before their investiture. Besides the obvious benefit that it makes the habit more special if you make it yourself, it also means that a few sisters aren't sewing habits day and night. [b]Also (and I hadn't thought of this before your post), it means that everyone in the Order knows how to make a habit![/b]
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Sooo true! The Sisters of Life also make their own habits. One of my friends was terrified about how hers would turn out since before she entered she had never sewn anything a day in her life! To say the least, she did have some extra help, but her habit turned out BEATUFIUL!