Livin_the_MASS Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 (edited) I would like a Protestant to show me in the Bible where it says to use only the Bible. Or show me where there is no authority in the Church and not to stand and hold to Traditions. God Bless Jason Edited April 11, 2004 by Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce S Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 You win. There, see how easy that one was? We are all going to convert IMMEDIATELY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin_the_MASS Posted April 11, 2004 Author Share Posted April 11, 2004 [quote name='Bruce S' date='Apr 10 2004, 07:19 PM'] You win. There, see how easy that one was? We are all going to convert IMMEDIATELY. [/quote] Amen good brother your in my prayers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce S Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 And the Gates of Hell shall not prevail against... Xerox, Inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin_the_MASS Posted April 11, 2004 Author Share Posted April 11, 2004 [quote name='Bruce S' date='Apr 10 2004, 07:19 PM'] You win. There, see how easy that one was? We are all going to convert IMMEDIATELY. [/quote] Whats the matter can't find what I asked for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce S Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Nope and I couldn't find INDEX to Maps in scripture either. So OUT with the maps I guess ... Nor could I find, PRICE $25.00 either, so I guess my next on is FREE right? Deep Jason, Deeeeep.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justified Saint Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 I am not a Protestant Jason but I'd like to show you where the Bible says to use only the Bible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin_the_MASS Posted April 11, 2004 Author Share Posted April 11, 2004 [quote name='Justified Saint' date='Apr 11 2004, 10:43 AM'] I am not a Protestant Jason but I'd like to show you where the Bible says to use only the Bible... [/quote] interesting, go ahead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin_the_MASS Posted April 11, 2004 Author Share Posted April 11, 2004 (edited) If you reply JS, I'll look at it later, The Holy Mass calls I must recieve Our God in the Holy Eucharist and pray. I will be happy to have a heart to heart discussion. I am Roman Catholic but my mission is to show charity, love and mercy to all that I meet. Look foward to the discussion. I will pray for you and you pray for me. He is Risen God Bless Jason "O Sacrament Most Holy, O Sacrament Divine, all praise and all thanksgiving be every moment Thine." Amen Peace of Christ be with you all on this Holy Day!! Edited April 11, 2004 by Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justified Saint Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 (edited) [quote]interesting, go ahead! [/quote] I just did. Edited April 11, 2004 by Justified Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewReformation Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 "Traditions" in the Greek does not refer to rituals or other such things, as we think of 'tradition' in the English Language. "Traditions" means more of doctrinal teaching. Furthermore, scripture does not support the concept that the Church IS the Truth. The Church is the foundation of the truth. Truth is found in God's Word. The Church holds up God's Word as Truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 [quote name='NewReformation' date='Apr 12 2004, 10:09 AM'] Furthermore, scripture does not support the concept that the Church IS the Truth. The Church is the foundation of the truth. Truth is found in God's Word. The Church holds up God's Word as Truth. [/quote] Right. And God's Word is more than just the Bible. Church = Foundation of Truth Truth = God's Word Then: The Church is the foundation of God's Word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewReformation Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 [quote name='dUSt' date='Apr 12 2004, 10:16 AM'] Right. And God's Word is more than just the Bible. Church = Foundation of Truth Truth = God's Word Then: The Church is the foundation of God's Word [/quote] Hmmm...I disagree slightly. I see the church(universal) as the pillar/foundation which holds up the Truth, but in and of itself is not truth. The Church is made up of people. People are fallible. All People. The Bible is God's Word. Therefore, the Bible is infallible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 [quote name='NewReformation' date='Apr 12 2004, 10:20 AM'] Hmmm...I disagree slightly. I see the church(universal) as the pillar/foundation which holds up the Truth, but in and of itself is not truth. The Church is made up of people. People are fallible. All People. The Bible is God's Word. Therefore, the Bible is infallible. [/quote] But I just thought you said that God's Word was Truth? Is it not? And then I thought you said that the Church is the the foundation of Truth. Is it not? And then wouldn't that make the Church the foundation of God's Word? Catholics agree that the Bible is infallible. But we recognize that individual interpretations are not infallible. What good is an infallible document if it can only be fallibly interpreted? This is why we believe the Church to be infallible, as well as the Bible--for without an infallible interpretor, an infallible document would only be infallible by definition--but have no real world application of it's infallibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewReformation Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 The church is the foundation of the Truth. That does not make it(the church) Truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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