Domincan Sisters Of Mary On Oprah Tues

[tinytherese]

I've said it multiple times already. Oprah better look out for Sr. Joseph Andrew. I've actually met her and went on a vocation retreat with them last May.

[Lil Red]

[quote name='laetitia crucis' date='08 February 2010 - 02:46 PM' timestamp='1265665601' post='2053607']
Here's the Oprah promo for it.

[url="http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/Lisa-Ling-Goes-Inside-the-World-of-a-Modern-Geisha_1"]Lisa Ling Goes Inside the World of the Modern Geisha and a Real-Life Nunnery[/url].
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+JMJ+
as [url="http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/theanchoress/"]the Anchoress[/url] puts it:
[quote]What disappoints about the teaser is something that consistently disappoints on those rare occasion when news people talk with Christian religious: the interviewers are so hung up on sex, and so lacking in imagination or depth of thought, that it is the first thing they talk about, and an issue the cannot seem to get past: “you give up sex? How do you not have sex? What about sex?” It is literally the first thing Oprah brings up in her teaser: “they’re young, and gave up sex! careers! and children!” [b]Note the emphasis. And the priority.[/b]

They never harangue Buddhist monks and nuns about celibacy, or call the Dalai Lama “hung up” about it. But when talking to Christian religious, it’s all they’ve got. I recall an “insider” visit Diane Sawyer made to the Poor Clare Nuns of Roswell, New Mexico, [b]where she confronted 700 years of mystery and monasticism, tradition, sacrifice and silence, and all she seemed capable of talking about was “no sex? How can you not have sex?”[/b]

The inability of these people to get beyond the corporeal and into the spiritual bespeaks a discomfort with depth, an unwillingness to consider all they do not know as anything but “oddball.” That is ironic, when they purport to be broad-minded sorts. Their opportunism sees an interesting topic to exploit for “sweeps” week, but their imagination has perhaps been stunted by forty years of hearing that sex is the be-all-and-end-all-of human reality and happiness, and their curiosity extends only far enough to get a few pictures and soundbites (and a “gotcha” if you can manage it), [b]because in their conflicted worldview, religion is both too boring and too provocative for their viewing audience to endure.[/b]

It’s sad, isn’t it? The reason I don’t watch daytime television is because it is generally insipid and brain-killing. [b]The cheap emphasis on trends, “instant” solutions to real problems and the over-reliance on sex as a subject and selling point can only serve to delude people into thinking that “the world” has all of the answers[/b] -that as long as they are reading a particular book, using a particular product, watching a particular show or espousing a particular mindset, they are progressing toward their happy-place. But they can never get there because every week the happy-place is redefined; the paths are changed, the next enlightened counselor, psychic or charlatan is the guy or gal who can tell you how to make your life perfect and achieve “inner peace” and ten-minute orgasms, by simply taking their vague advice.

You never hear one of these daytime-answer folk say that life is hard, and often unfair, and that sometimes the best way to deal with it all is to just buck up, stop whining, stop thinking about yourself, and go do something productive for someone else; find something greater than yourself in which to expend some energy, and much of your real or imagined grievances will fade away.

Take away the complaint, ‘I have been harmed,’ and the harm is taken away.
– Marcus Aurelius

We have have had four decades of incessant sex-chat, sex-counseling and sex-advice, particularly in daytime television, and -if the constant arrival of new (or newly discovered “ancient”) sex theories being foisted on the public is any indication- people are still grasping in the dark, and coming up empty. [b]This indicates to me that all this talk has meant less-than-nothing, and that most people are still not having great sex.[/b]

The truth is, if your sex life is great, then you don’t need to talk about it all the time. Just as a bride who is insecure about the strength of her marriage may overdo the gushing and “protest too much” that she and her husband are “solid,” the person (or the society) needing to go on and on about sex is the person (or the society) that is insecure and unsettled about it.

I suspect much of that comes from our losing sight of sex as something more than a recreational entitlement, wholly detached from meaning beyond the moment. Lovemaking is sacred. The co-creative function that drives it so powerfully is Holy, and because it is Holy, it is wrapped in mystery, as well. [b]Society has lost touch with that notion because it has so fully detached sex from procreation, and the politico-socio zeitgeist has demanded that all sex be “freed” from the religious perspective, which can only be “restrictive” and “limiting.” And here we are.[/b]

We have a very odd notion, really, of what makes us free, anymore. Sex that lives in fear of life, that must be protected from disease, that exposes the human body to degradation, the human heart to constant shielding and the human spirit to constant uncertainty, is not sex that makes us free. It is sex that entraps us, distracts us and ultimately makes us strangers to ourselves.

I believe that the Holy Spirit uses the most surprising people and circumstances to work toward God’s purpose, and that most of the time the purpose goes far beyond our imaginings. So, I am very hopeful that the net result of Oprah’s look at apostolic women religious will be a positive in the obvious way -that women who have had little exposure to this option might find themselves attracted enough to be open to the workings of grace.

But I am also hopeful that there will be a less-obvious benefit as well: that the show may get some people to wondering what else they might be missing while they’re obsessing on the trendy, the sensational, the sexually-titillating; that they may find themselves inspired to turn away from the superficial, and go deeper.[/quote]

[laetitia crucis]

[quote name='Lil Red' date='08 February 2010 - 06:56 PM' timestamp='1265669765' post='2053680']
+JMJ+
as [url="http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/theanchoress/"]the Anchoress[/url] puts it:
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Thank you for posting that, Lil Red. Totally hit the nail on the head!

[loveletslive]

i was told it's been moved up to the 2pm timeslot instead of the 4pm slot because of something with the olympics. psh.

[loveletslive]

disregard that! next week it's at 2pm. tomorrow it's at the normal 4pm time

[zunshynn]

Is that 4 pm Central time?

[laetitia crucis]

[quote name='zunshynn' date='09 February 2010 - 12:37 AM' timestamp='1265690254' post='2053929']
Is that 4 pm Central time?
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Eastern.

[laetitia crucis]

So... did anyone here in Open Mic watch the show?

Thoughts? Reactions? Praises?

(We're posting about it in Vocation Station. )

Edit: We kind of have two separate threads about the show -- [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=102556"]here[/url] and [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=102669&pid=2054381&st=0&#entry2054381"]here[/url]. Edited February 9, 2010 by laetitia crucis

[zunshynn]

Dang it... I forgot it was on at 1 here.

[laetitia crucis]

[quote name='zunshynn' date='09 February 2010 - 06:52 PM' timestamp='1265755929' post='2054384']
Dang it... I forgot it was on at 1 here.
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Here's a little clip from the show that angelofmary posted on VS:

[url="http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/Lisa-Ling-Spends-a-Day-in-the-Life-of-Nuns-Video"]Lisa Ling Spends a Day in the Life of Nuns[/url]

Edited February 9, 2010 by laetitia crucis

[homeschoolmom]

I saw a little bit. I'll try to catch the rest online...

Interestingly, the other segment on the show was on geisha.

[laetitia crucis]

Here are some more clips from Oprah's site:

[url="http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/Lisa-Ling-Spends-the-Night-at-a-Convent-Video/topic/oprahshow"]Overnight at the Convent[/url]

[url="http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/Nuns-Reflect-on-Silence-After-the-Show-Video/topic/oprahshow"]Nuns Reflect on Silence After the Show[/url]

[Lil Red]

+JMJ+
Oprah is a hypocrite

[homeschoolmom]

[quote name='Lil Red' date='09 February 2010 - 06:34 PM' timestamp='1265758476' post='2054402']
+JMJ+
Oprah is a hypocrite
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Could you be more specific?

[Lil Red]

[quote name='homeschoolmom' date='09 February 2010 - 04:38 PM' timestamp='1265758723' post='2054404']
Could you be more specific?
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+JMJ+
one of the sisters was talking about how the world glorifies sex, the body, etc - and Oprah says something like "oh yeah, I get that" meaning, I agree. She is one of the biggest promoters of glorifying sex and the body.