Christ Never Named His Church

[Bruce S]

[quote]To come to believe in the Messiah--Jesus Christ, you must believe everything that He has taught.
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And NOT believe what HE didn't.

This is a two way street.

[Livin_the_MASS]

No reply to my answer lumberjack?

[the lumberjack]

yeah, read your Bible more, and the Compilation of Catholicism less.

and here I said i wasn't going to post until I got an answer...oh well...


still waiting.

God bless.

[Livin_the_MASS]

[quote name='the lumberjack' date='Apr 11 2004, 03:17 PM'] yeah, read your Bible more, and the Compilation of Catholicism less.

and here I said i wasn't going to post until I got an answer...oh well...


still waiting.

God bless. [/quote]
No you just don't have anything to debate again, because facts are facts!!!

God Bless
Jason

[the lumberjack]

Jason, all those verses you posted are still no evidence that those teachings are biblical, or for that matter, exist...

and I said before, I'm still waiting.

[ironmonk]

[quote name='the lumberjack' date='Apr 15 2004, 01:03 PM'] Jason, all those verses you posted are still no evidence that those teachings are biblical, or for that matter, exist...

and I said before, I'm still waiting. [/quote]
Why not study what the First Christians wrote instead of wait. Do something beneficial for your soul and mind.

You have no clue what the first Christians said the bible meant.

Not everything is in the bible. Christ said it Himself! Dude, for the love of Christ clear your mind of your hate and start thinking.

[b]John 14:16 [/b][color=red]And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate to be with you always, [/color]
[b]17 [/b][color=red]the Spirit of truth, which the world cannot accept, because it neither sees nor knows it. But you know it, because it remains with you, and will be in you. [/color]
[b]18 [/b][color=red]I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you. [/color]
...
[b]26 [/b][color=purple]The Advocate, the holy Spirit that the Father will send in my name--[b]he will teach you everything [/b]and remind you of all that (I) told you. [/color]



"he will teach you everything" = The Christian Church WILL LEARN THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT. The Holy Spirit is the spirit of Truth. The Holy Spirit DOES NOT lead Christians to division, but He DOES lead them to the Unity of ONE Faith.

The Holy Spirit has been teaching Christ's Church, which is the Catholic Church, for 2000 years. Not everything is in the bible. The Bible tells us that Christ speaks to us through His Church... NOT through the bible....


Start studying, slothfulness will not get you closer to Christ.

First Christian Writings: [url="http://www.NewAdvent.org/fathers/"]http://www.NewAdvent.org/fathers/[/url]
other sources of study:
[url="http://www.Britannica.com"]http://www.Britannica.com[/url] <- Look up Catholicism.
[url="http://www.Catholic.com"]http://www.Catholic.com[/url]
[url="http://www.Catholicity.com"]http://www.Catholicity.com[/url]
[url="http://www.Catholic-convert.com"]http://www.Catholic-convert.com[/url]


You do not know the Catholic Church or why we do what we do, before you can intelligently discuss it, you need to learn about it FROM A Catholic source.

-ironmonk

[Jake Huether]

[quote name='the lumberjack' date='Apr 15 2004, 10:03 AM'] Jason, all those verses you posted are still no evidence that those teachings are biblical, or for that matter, exist...

and I said before, I'm still waiting. [/quote]
Your question was answered three pages back.


Elizabeth, filled with the Spirit, said, "the Mother of my Lord".


Mother of my Lord.

Comment on that LJ.

[Dave]

[quote name='the lumberjack' date='Apr 11 2004, 03:17 PM'] yeah, read your Bible more, and the Compilation of Catholicism less.

and here I said i wasn't going to post until I got an answer...oh well...


still waiting.

God bless. [/quote]
Lumberjack, it's been discussed on here many times why Catholic beliefs are biblical. If necessary, please refer to previous threads and read them carefully, thoroughly, and with an open mind.