"i Shot Us Abortion Doctor To Protect Children,"

[Winchester]

[quote name='hot stuff' date='29 January 2010 - 12:15 PM' timestamp='1264785311' post='2047264']
Nihil it's important to understand the distinction that the Church makes. Let's say you see a guy who is clearly drunk and wants to get into his car and drive away. The right thing to do is try talk him out of it or try to take his keys. What would be even more appropriate would be to call the police. [/quote]
I disagree. The police have no special authority to enforce safety. They have power granted by the state, but every one of us has the authority to stop evil. Waiting for the cops to show up in a case like that would be asinine.

But that's the norm that's approaching as we move further left in our society.

[Jesus_lol]

personally i think he should have let Dexter take care of it.
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other than that, i hope the guy is put away, and i would be very pleased if some more prolife groups advocated that decision. what he did was wrong, and supporting him in it is only going to drive people further away.

[organwerke]

[quote name='Raphael' date='29 January 2010 - 07:53 PM' timestamp='1264787623' post='2047287']
Murder is a sin. Killing is amoral and depends on circumstances (are we killing a human or a duck? Is it an innocent or guilty human whose risk to human life is otherwise uncontrollable?).
[/quote]

Thank you for your post, yes in fact I was unclear because of my bad English.
But I hope my post was clear in its general meaning.
I don't want to start a debate on this, but the thing to me seems even more absurd since in USA there is death penalty (even if I know not all the countries have it).
So, some countries have death as a form of punishment for really bad crimes.
So it is difficult to prove that death is never allowed in order to defend other lives...

Edited January 29, 2010 by organwerke

[organwerke]

PS: of course I don't think this that man's action was right.
I only think that it shows a lot of absurdities of our modern world.

[Winchester]

I hope the [s]doctor [/s]abortionist went to heaven. I hope that a sudden wellspring of conscience makes the legality of abortion immaterial.

[Jaime]

[quote name='Winchester' date='29 January 2010 - 12:58 PM' timestamp='1264787922' post='2047293']
I disagree. The police have no special authority to enforce safety. They have power granted by the state, but every one of us has the authority to stop evil. Waiting for the cops to show up in a case like that would be asinine.

But that's the norm that's approaching as we move further left in our society.
[/quote]

But it says "Protect and to Serve" right on their cars dude!!

Also I'm not disagreeing with you that we have the responsibility to stop evil. We don't have the responsibility to punish evil. And the Church recognizes the power of the state (in the case the police) to punish.

[Winchester]

[quote name='hot stuff' date='29 January 2010 - 01:22 PM' timestamp='1264789324' post='2047310']
But it says "Protect and to Serve" right on their cars dude!!

Also I'm not disagreeing with you that we have the responsibility to stop evil. We don't have the responsibility to punish evil. And the Church recognizes the power of the state (in the case the police) to punish.
[/quote]
I think that responsibility ends with prayer, if we're discussing a moral requirement, though.

[organwerke]

[quote name='hot stuff' date='29 January 2010 - 07:58 PM' timestamp='1264787919' post='2047292']
Not according to the Church
[/quote]

I was not judgning the persons.
I was judging the actions.
Killing thousands of men is worse than killing a man.

[Brother Adam]

The guilty verdict is in and took the jury only 37 minutes to reach.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Brother Adam' date='29 January 2010 - 12:54 PM' timestamp='1264791261' post='2047335']
The guilty verdict is in and took the jury only 37 minutes to reach.
[/quote]
Unsurprising, but anti-climactic.

[Brother Adam]

A mass murderer dies by the same crime that he perpetuated and the prolife cause takes a step back.

[Winchester]

I doubt it was a jury of his peers.

[HisChildForever]

[quote][b]"It is not man's job to take life[/b] — it's our Heavenly Father's. He is our creator, he gives and takes life. It's never up to man to take life, except in defence of self or others."[/quote]

If it's not a man's job to take life, then why did he commit murder?

[MIKolbe]

sin darkens the intellect.

[HisChildForever]

I mean, he says he was acting out of self-defense, right? But at that moment, Tiller was at a religious service, not performing an abortion.