Carthusian Nuns

[sistersintigo]

Hope this works. Here is a link to a .pdf file presenting a paper on the Carthusian Nuns and their community at Nonenque in France.
http://www.up.ac.za/dspace/bitstream/2263/10793/1/Steyn_Charterhouse(2006).pdf

[TradMom]

+Praised be Jesus Christ!

Thank you for this reference paper. I printed it out and will read it later. I greatly look forward to reading it.

Pax,

TradMom

[sistersintigo]

The Carthusian Nuns have a foundation in South Korea, so new that I have not been able to find links to information about it.
Outside of Korea, all the Carthusian nuns are on the European continent; but England, the United States, and Latin America have Charterhouses exclusively for men. For example, North American women who contact the men's Charterhouse of the Transfiguration, in southwestern Vermont, regarding vocations, in general are directed to the women's Charterhouses in Europe. There may be exceptions made, but I guess that would depend on the Carthusians collecting a reference or two that the discerning woman knows somebody inside -- in any case, a woman's contact with the Vermont Charterhouse would be limited strictly to long-distance, such as snail-mail, as no woman is permitted to visit Transfiguration in person.
Here is a webpage in Spanish. This page of text pertains to the Carthusian Nuns in northern Spain, in the charterhouse of Santa Maria de Benifassa (sometimes spelled Benifasa or Benifaca). This property is an historical monument in that it dates back to the middle ages and was built, not by the Carthusians, but by the Cistercians. Following the upheavals of the two World Wars in the twentieth century, the Carthusian Order acquired this old monastery; and after a period of formation in a women's monastery in Italy, a small group of Spanish women became the founders of the Carthusian monastery for nuns in Spain.
http://www.chartreux.org/maisons/Benifaca/informacion.htm

To underline the above:
Women discerning a Carthusian vocation who come from Latin America, or the Philippines, or are Spanish-speaking from outside Spain, would be directed to the Santa Maria de Benifassa charterhouse for women, the only one for women in which Spanish is spoken.

[TradMom]

+Praised be Jesus Christ!

I sent this link and paper to my Spiritual Director who just loved it! I read part of it last night (baby with a cough) and hope to finish it today (nap-time!). I have already received an email from her, thanking me so in turn - let me thank you, Sister Sintigo, for providing this to all.

I don't know if one can ever tire of reading about the Carthusians. I pray and hope that the United States will one day be graced with a Monastery for their Nuns.

Is there anybody on this phorum that is thinking about them? I understand the Sisters of Bethlehem (another thread going right now) is very close in spirit and life. Some of our phatmasser's have been there.

I would be interested in hearing different experiences of those in discernment. Of course --- we might have a future Carthusian Monk or Brother amongst us. Hopefully, those even in the early stages of thinking about this will step forward and share!

It is very inspiring and helpful for all to learn....always, we need to learn, study and learn more. Oh, dear. I sound like a Dominican!

Pax,
TradMom

[EJames2]

[quote name='sistersintigo' date='25 January 2010 - 09:53 AM' timestamp='1264438419' post='2044187']
Hope this works. Here is a link to a .pdf file presenting a paper on the Carthusian Nuns and their community at Nonenque in France.
http://www.up.ac.za/dspace/bitstream/2263/10793/1/Steyn_Charterhouse(2006).pdf
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[url="http://wikimapia.org/15191754/fr/Chartreuse-du-Pr%C3%A9cieux-Sang-Nonenque"]http://wikimapia.org/15191754/fr/Chartreuse-du-Pr%C3%A9cieux-Sang-Nonenque[/url]

[sistersintigo]

[quote name='sistersintigo' date='26 January 2010 - 01:42 PM' timestamp='1264527752' post='2044956']
The Carthusian Nuns have a foundation in South Korea, so new that I have not been able to find links to information about it.
Outside of Korea, all the Carthusian nuns are on the European continent; but England, the United States, and Latin America have Charterhouses exclusively for men. For example, North American women who contact the men's Charterhouse of the Transfiguration, in southwestern Vermont, regarding vocations, in general are directed to the women's Charterhouses in Europe.

Women discerning a Carthusian vocation who come from Latin America, or the Philippines, or are Spanish-speaking from outside Spain, would be directed to the Santa Maria de Benifassa charterhouse for women, the only one for women in which Spanish is spoken.
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This link (if God willing it works) goes to a very clear and readable map. The map shows worldwide locations of Charterhouses of Saint Bruno's Carthusian order, both men and women. The map is otherwise exclusive -- it does not show the Bethlehem/St Bruno contemplatives, who are distinct from St. Bruno's nine-hundred-year-old Order.
http://www.kartuzija-pleterje.si/ang/zemljevid.htm

[sistersintigo]

[quote name='TradMom' date='26 January 2010 - 02:08 PM' timestamp='1264529318' post='2044978']
+Praised be Jesus Christ!

I sent this link and paper to my Spiritual Director who just loved it! I read part of it last night (baby with a cough) and hope to finish it today (nap-time!).

I don't know if one can ever tire of reading about the Carthusians. I pray and hope that the United States will one day be graced with a Monastery for their Nuns.

Of course --- we might have a future Carthusian Monk or Brother amongst us. Hopefully, those even in the early stages of thinking about this will step forward and share!

It is very inspiring and helpful for all to learn....always, we need to learn, study and learn more. Oh, dear. I sound like a Dominican!

Pax,
TradMom
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Speaking strictly for me, I don't mind you sounding like a Dominican ...
Here is yet another link.
This covers a charterhouse of nuns in Italy, although the website is not religious; this website is for tourism to that part of Italy, so the language is Italian. The tourist site devotes this one page to the monastery of Carthusian nuns, which, as it happens, is a fairly recent Carthusian foundation. I believe this location was newly constructed to accommodate nuns from existing Carthusian Charterhouses which had survived the two world wars with a lot of casualties and damage....they kind of decided that the surviving nuns could use a newer physical plant in which to start afresh.

http://xoomer.alice.it/degoweb/certosa/certosa.htm

[EJames2]

[quote name='sistersintigo' date='26 January 2010 - 12:47 PM' timestamp='1264535230' post='2045093']
This link (if God willing it works) goes to a very clear and readable map. The map shows worldwide locations of Charterhouses of Saint Bruno's Carthusian order, both men and women. The map is otherwise exclusive -- it does not show the Bethlehem/St Bruno contemplatives, who are distinct from St. Bruno's nine-hundred-year-old Order.
http://www.kartuzija-pleterje.si/ang/zemljevid.htm
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great map!thanks... also [url="http://wikimapia.org/"]http://wikimapia.org/[/url] has every Carthusian Monastery in the world mapped, with highlight outline, and clickable photos,info/address and zoomab/convents in general, world wide. Any one need any helping searching? let me know, cause the search function can be particular. for example; click here [url="http://wikimapia.org/#lat=36.2813505&lon=127.9779553&z=17&l=0&m=b&v=8"]http://wikimapia.org/#lat=36.2813505&lon=127.9779553&z=17&l=0&m=b&v=8[/url] and you see the outline of the Carthusians in S.Korea, click on the highlight/hovered outline on map. and get images and info. or the Carthusians in England at > [url="http://wikimapia.org/#lat=50.9729945&lon=-0.28337&z=17&l=0&m=b&v=9"]http://wikimapia.org/#lat=50.9729945&lon=-0.28337&z=18&l=0&m=b&v=8[/url]
Bethlehem Communities also included...(who are yes distinct fro the the Carthusians, though the Holy Father 'gave' them St Bruno as their official 'Father and Patron' in 1999 with blessing of the Grande Chartreuse.)

La paix du Christ soit toujours avec vous.
[url="http://www.box.net/shared/t683qxmyxm"]http://www.box.net/shared/t683qxmyxm <<<< Carthusian Nuns Spain chant -Mp3[/url]

Edited January 27, 2010 by EJames2

[sistersintigo]

re: photos/videos of Carthusian Nuns
There do exist videos of the men (carthusian monks, brothers) but if there is a single video of the women, I have been unable to locate it -- no motion pictures of Carthusian Nuns.

Photos are another matter. This link goes to thumbnails for a photo album of the Spanish charterhouse of Carthusian Nuns, a series of still images.
http://www.certosini.info/immaginicertosine/thumbnails.php?album=53

The above is the Cartuja (Charterhouse) of Santa Maria de Benifaca ("Benifassa")

It is elsewhere written:
Public access to the Benifaca property is limited to Thursdays, from 1:00 to 3:00 in the afternoon, and only inside the church sanctuary, never to the enclosure.

[sistersintigo]

"THERE IS NOT A HEART IN THIS WORLD SO COLD, THAT IT WOULD NOT BE SET ON FIRE WITH LOVE ..."

from the writing of Carthusian prioress and novice-mistress Marguerite d'Oingt, some two or three centuries into the nine hundred years of the history of Saint Bruno's order of Carthusian contemplatives.
Author/poet/contemplative Marguerite lived in the Provence region of France, in a monastery that no longer stands. One of the most exceptional things about Marguerite the Carthusian prioress is that she wrote things down. Her contemplative writings were actually copied and carried from her charterhouse of nuns to La Grand Chartreuse, the seat of the Carthusian Order (and restricted to monks and brothers!), for approval by the Minister General of the Order; a thing, I suspect, that did not often happen with vowed Carthusian religious women. And yes, the men at the top of the Order approved of what Marguerite had written, whether she wrote in Latin (instructions on how to meditate) or the colloquial tongue which is kind of, how to say this, "dinosaur French." (What emoticon ought to go there??)
For an English-language page of links to literary publications on Marguerite d'Oingt:
http://home.infionline.net/~ddisse/oingt.html

Last, but not least: mother Marguerite formed a Catholic saint, Blessed Beatrix of Ornacieux, one of Marguerite's novices.

[sistersintigo]

[quote name='sistersintigo' date='28 January 2010 - 12:26 PM' timestamp='1264696002' post='2046446']

http://www.certosini.info/immaginicertosine/thumbnails.php?album=53

The above is the Cartuja (Charterhouse) of Santa Maria de Benifaca ("Benifassa")

It is elsewhere written:
Public access to the Benifaca property is limited to Thursdays, from 1:00 to 3:00 in the afternoon, and only inside the church sanctuary, never to the enclosure.
[/quote]

Here is a page in Spanish, in which the Carthusian moniales/nuns of the Benifasa Charterhouse introduce themselves to their diocese of Tortosa. http://www3.planalfa.es/obtortosa/cartoixa.html/

And here is a color photograph of The Strait And Narrow Way to "santa Maria de Benifaca"
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rubencolomer/2800008997

[berenike]

I came here to plug a film about Carmelites, but saw this

The Little Sisters of Bethlehem etc. are not Carthusians: they were founded by a Dominican sister, though I gather their style of life has changed considerably since their foundation.

If you're into the Byzantine thing, join some Greek Catholic nuns, if you're interested in the OCart write to them. It is a very focused and beautiful way of passing the time before you die - not too hard, nothing to glory in - worth being interested in

Edited February 15, 2010 by berenike

[sistersintigo]

Berenike, a little unsure of the one sentence. "If you're interested in the OCart write to them" --to the OCarts, yes? And the final sentence, "focused and beautiful,...not too hard, nothing to glory in" -- this is the contemplative vocation, compared with an active apostolate?
Anyway the Carmelites are represented in force on this forum -- your film will be warmly responded to here.
The latest writing I know of, on the Carthusian Nuns, is by author Nathalie Nabert, who has contributed to scholarship on the Carthusians for years, titled "les moniales chartreuses." After looking through that French-language book, a letter to the "OCarts" will be better informed, I hope.

[berenike]

[quote name='sistersintigo' date='16 February 2010 - 01:04 AM' timestamp='1266275099' post='2057682']
Berenike, a little unsure of the one sentence. "If you're interested in the OCart write to them" --to the OCarts, yes? [/quote]

Yes:)

[quote] And the final sentence, "focused and beautiful,...not too hard, nothing to glory in" -- this is the contemplative vocation, compared with an active apostolate? [/quote]

No, life in the Charterhouse. The statutes are so perfectly balanced. Genius (or the HS).

[quote]

Anyway the Carmelites are represented in force on this forum -- your film will be warmly responded to here.

[/quote]

I'ts up.

[TradMom]

+Praised be Jesus Christ!

Great links and posts. Thanks, everyone!

Pax,

TradMom