Lounge Daddy Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Saw this linked up at [url="http://freetalklive.com/"]Free Talk Live[/url]. [url="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2799483/Dubai-waiter-rapes-British-girl-then-SHE-and-fiance-are-held-for-illegal-sex.html"]From the article[/url]: [quote]A BRITISH woman on a break in Dubai went to police after being raped - but SHE was arrested for having illegal sex. The 23-year-old Londoner was attacked by a waiter in a hotel toilet after celebrating her engagement to her boyfriend with drinks. But after she admitted boozing and sharing a hotel room with her fiancé, cops in the strict Islamic state arrested her for "illegal drinking" outside licensed premises and having sex outside marriage. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 The victim is punished for being raped. How absolutely disgusting. Unfortunately, I am not surprised. [quote] Yet unsympathetic cops immediately quizzed them about breaking the emirate's severe decency rules, [b]which contain elements of Sharia law[/b]. [/quote] This is why I am not surprised. [quote] Medics were said to have shunned rape case procedures - but made sure they obtained a blood sample from the woman to prove she had been drinking.[/quote] Glad to know they have their priorities straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercy me Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 There have been many cases much like this one where the victim is charged with the crime in Dubai. This is not unusual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XIX Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Ugh. This is absolutely...heinous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 (edited) [quote name='XIX' date='10 January 2010 - 03:38 PM' timestamp='1263155880' post='2034072'] Ugh. This is absolutely...heinous. [/quote] Heinous? Those are the laws of that country. If they don't like it, they can leave. That seems to be the standard justification for [i]any[/i] act of aggression. ~Sternhauser Edited January 10, 2010 by Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 [quote name='Sternhauser' date='10 January 2010 - 05:59 PM' timestamp='1263160742' post='2034122'] Heinous? Those are the laws of that country. If they don't like it, they can leave. That seems to be the standard justification for [i]any[/i] act of aggression. ~Sternhauser [/quote] I'm sure she would like to leave Dubai, but unfortunately this is not Bahrain, the Las Vegas of the Middle East. This is Dubai where Sharia is strictly enforced, and therefore, as a foreign national, she is being detained for having been drinking and been the victim of a rape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 [quote name='Sternhauser' date='10 January 2010 - 04:59 PM' timestamp='1263160742' post='2034122'] Heinous? Those are the laws of that country. If they don't like it, they can leave. That seems to be the standard justification for [i]any[/i] act of aggression. ~Sternhauser [/quote] Yeah, no one's talked about there being just law and unjust law. Your obsession is making you unseemly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 [quote name='Winchester' date='10 January 2010 - 05:27 PM' timestamp='1263162453' post='2034139'] Your obsession is making you unseemly. [/quote] And predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 I would like to point out this is also a great call for attracting tourists. Smart move, haji. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarieLynn Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 [quote name='BG45' date='11 January 2010 - 11:18 AM' timestamp='1263161896' post='2034133'] I'm sure she would like to leave Dubai, but unfortunately this is not Bahrain, the Las Vegas of the Middle East. This is Dubai where Sharia is strictly enforced, and therefore, as a foreign national, she is being detained for having been drinking and been the victim of a rape. [/quote] We in the West (I am in New Zealand) sometimes have no concept of how life can be , and is, in places such as Dubai. Sharia law is strictly enforced, and Westerners are not exempt. As a nurse who has worked in Hospitals in the Middle East for a period of time, we were warned constantly about the use of alcohol, and modesty of dress was stressed most rigidly for when we left the compound. What is acceptable in Westernised countries, sure does not apply in most Muslim countries, and we were forever on our guard not to antagonise the religious police whose presence was ever constant on the streets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel's angel Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Apparently, they have now told her that if she forgets about pursuing rape charges and gets married to her fiance immediately, they will consider letting her go free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 [quote name='MarieLynn' date='10 January 2010 - 05:37 PM' timestamp='1263163070' post='2034142'] We in the West (I am in New Zealand) sometimes have no concept of how life can be , and is, in places such as Dubai. Sharia law is strictly enforced, and Westerners are not exempt. As a nurse who has worked in Hospitals in the Middle East for a period of time, we were warned constantly about the use of alcohol, and modesty of dress was stressed most rigidly for when we left the compound. What is acceptable in Westernised countries, sure does not apply in most Muslim countries, and we were forever on our guard not to antagonise the religious police whose presence was ever constant on the streets. [/quote] I am always and at all times exempt from tyranny. It would be morally acceptable for her country to enter by force of arms and remove her from the country, if the country will not release her to them peacefully. It is wise to observe the laws, but there is no moral requirement to follow sharia law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 (edited) [quote name='BG45' date='10 January 2010 - 05:18 PM' timestamp='1263161896' post='2034133'] I'm sure she would like to leave Dubai, but unfortunately this is not Bahrain, the Las Vegas of the Middle East. This is Dubai where Sharia is strictly enforced, and therefore, as a foreign national, she is being detained for having been drinking and been the victim of a rape. [/quote] She never should have gone, if she never wanted to accept the injustices they might inflict on her, right? Her very [i]presence [/i]justifies the injustices they're inflicting on her. That's what I'm told about other injustices. ~Sternhauser Edited January 10, 2010 by Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 No it's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 [quote name='Sternhauser' date='10 January 2010 - 06:50 PM' timestamp='1263163814' post='2034147'] She never should have gone, if she never wanted to accept the injustices they might inflict on her, right? Her very [i]presence [/i]justifies the injustices they're inflicting on her. That's what I'm told about other injustices. ~Sternhauser [/quote] Blaming the victim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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