Winchester Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 (edited) [quote name='todd_vetter33' date='27 December 2009 - 07:58 PM' timestamp='1261961918' post='2026694'] Here is the link. It takes a third grader with the ability to read about 5 minutes to read it. [/quote] So which one read it to you? Edited December 28, 2009 by Winchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 [quote name='todd_vetter33' date='27 December 2009 - 08:22 PM' timestamp='1261963368' post='2026697'] John 10 [size="2"][sup]34[/sup] Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your law, [i]'I said, "You are gods"'[/i]?[sup]35[/sup] If He called them gods, [b][u]to whom the word of God came[/u][/b] (and the Scripture cannot be broken), [sup]36[/sup] do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, 'You are blaspheming,' because I said, 'I am the Son of God'? [/size] [size="2"]The baptism of spirit sanctifies the one who receives the spirit of God. I am a son of God in the same manner that Jesus was a son of God. Please illustrate in the bible where Jesus claimed to be God? Is one sanctified when they receive a book (catholic doctrnie) which they have made their word of God? Or are they sanctified when they receive the voice of truth from heaven? I can illustrate for you where He said His parent was greater than he. How then is he God. He did say he is one with God as I am now one with God through the law of God. John 14:28 You have heard Me say to you, 'I am going away and coming back to you.' If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said, 'I am going to the [b]Father[/b],' for My [b]Father[/b] is [b]greater[/b] than I. John 20 Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and [i]to[/i] My God and your God.'" Those who receive the baptism of the spirit are just like Jesus! Luke 20:36 nor can they die anymore, [b]for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God[/b], being sons of the [b]resurrection[/b]. There is much for you to learn. Start with the simple truths which I present in my original post. God Bless [/size] [/quote] Yeah he's referring to Psalm 82 which is not referring to folks like you and me. There is so much for you to learn. Start with the simple truths. You are not God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 I bet the response will not contain bold letters, snide courtesy or some insane claims of divinity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 These doctrines, [Todd], to put it mildly, are not of sound judgement. These doctrines are not in accord with the Church, and they involve those who accept them in the greatest of impiety. These doctrines not even the heretics outside the Church have ever dared to publish. These doctrines were not passed down to you by the presbyters who came before us and who were the companions of the Apostles. -Irenaeus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 [quote name='todd_vetter33' date='27 December 2009 - 05:52 PM' timestamp='1261954356' post='2026638'] With Jesus claiming to fulfill all things in the Laws of Moses, prophets and Psalms. It's vital to mankind to understand the truth of the original Passover. In Exodus 16 there are time specific indicators given that when applied to the Jewish Clalender, validates that the original passover occured on a Wednesday. The charts which illustrate this can be found at this link. [url="http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/First%20Passover%20of%20Exodus%20occured%20on%20Wednesday.pdf"]http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/First%20Passover%20of%20Exodus%20occured%20on%20Wednesday.pdf[/url] [/quote] We're running with the Shadows Of The Night So baby take my hand, you'll be all right Surrender all your dreams to me tonight They'll come true in the end You said - oh girl, it's a cold world When you keep it all to yourself I said you can't hide on the inside All the pain you've ever felt Ransom my heart, but baby don't look back Cause we got nobody else Chorus: We're running with the Shadows of the Night So baby take my hand, you'll be all right Surrender all your dreams to me tonight They'll come true in the end You know that sometimes, it feels like It's all moving way too fast Use every alibi and words you deny That love ain't meant to last You can cry tough baby, it's all right You can let me down easy, but not tonight We're running with the Shadows of the Night So baby take my hand, you'll be all right Surrender all your dreams to me tonight They'll come true in the end We're running with the Shadows of the Night So baby take my hand, you'll be all right Surrender all your dreams to me tonight They'll come true in the end And now the hands of time are standin' still Midnight angel, won't you say you will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddington Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 ^ You got me tappin' my toes and grinnin', Wincho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 I prefer my response. Irenaeus is my homeboy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd_vetter33 Posted December 28, 2009 Author Share Posted December 28, 2009 [quote name='hot stuff' date='27 December 2009 - 08:28 PM' timestamp='1261963681' post='2026699'] Yeah he's referring to Psalm 82 which is not referring to folks like you and me. There is so much for you to learn. Start with the simple truths. You are not God. [/quote] It's true that Psalms 82 is not referring to you if you do not seek the wisdom of God. It is however talking about me because I have recieved wisdom from God. I am simply sharing the wisdom God has given me to share with you. What you do with that wisdom is up to you. Will you trample it into mud and rend me? Or will you seek out what you are missing within you? The covenant of God involves choices based on the Law of God. Will man choose to keep the law of God and walk in the Way of God. Or will they value the traditions of men which lead to perpetual death? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 why does it matter to you so much what day of the week Our Lord died? What matters most is that He died for us and rose from the dead on the third day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='27 December 2009 - 10:48 PM' timestamp='1261972117' post='2026753'] These doctrines, [Todd], to put it mildly, are not of sound judgement. These doctrines are not in accord with the Church, and they involve those who accept them in the greatest of impiety. These doctrines not even the heretics outside the Church have ever dared to publish. These doctrines were not passed down to you by the presbyters who came before us and who were the companions of the Apostles. -Irenaeus [/quote] You seem to be enjoying that book of writings by the Fathers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd_vetter33 Posted December 29, 2009 Author Share Posted December 29, 2009 (edited) [quote name='dominicansoul' date='28 December 2009 - 05:17 PM' timestamp='1262038665' post='2026973'] why does it matter to you so much what day of the week Our Lord died? What matters most is that He died for us and rose from the dead on the third day. [/quote] Can you convince a muslim that Jesus was the messiah and that what you just said in your above quote is truth from God? [b][size="3"]Proverbs 6:19 [/b][/size][font="Verdana,Verdana"][size="3"][font="Verdana,Verdana"][size="3"]A false witnesses who speaks [/size][/font][/size][/font][b][size="3"]lies[/b][/size][font="Verdana,Verdana"][size="3"][font="Verdana,Verdana"][size="3"], and one who sows [/size][/font][/size][/font][b][size="3"]discord [/b][/size][font="Verdana,Verdana"][size="3"][font="Verdana,Verdana"][size="3"]among brethren. [/size][/font][/size][/font][b][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"]dis·cord: [/b][/size][/font][/size][/font][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"](d s kôrd ) n.[/size][/font][/size][/font][i][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"]. [/i][/size][/font][/size][/font][b][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"]1. a. [/b][/size][/font][/size][/font][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"]Lack of agreement among persons, groups, or things. [/size][/font][/size][/font][b][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"]b. [/b][/size][/font][/size][/font][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"]Tension or strife resulting from a lack of agreement; dissension. [/size][/font][/size][/font][font="Times New Roman,Times New Roman"][size="3"][font="Times New Roman,Times New Roman"][size="3"]For unity in Christ and solid truth, one must speak the truth about God, from God, if they are to bare good fruit and deliver souls. [/size][/font][/size][/font][b][size="3"]Proverbs 14:25 [/b][/size][font="Verdana,Verdana"][size="3"][font="Verdana,Verdana"][size="3"]A [/size][/font][/size][/font][b][size="3"]true [/b][/size][font="Verdana,Verdana"][size="3"][font="Verdana,Verdana"][size="3"]witnesses delivers [/size][/font][/size][/font][b][size="3"]souls[/b][/size][font="Verdana,Verdana"][size="3"][font="Verdana,Verdana"][size="3"], But a deceitful witness speaks lies. [/size][/font][/size][/font]Did You share truth from God when you said it's not important what Day of the week Christ died? The difference is true vs lie. Did God command you not to tell a lie? A lie in ignorance will lead to discord. The truth will deliver souls. You and I have discord in understanding because one of us is not telling a truth from God. Who would that be? Edited December 29, 2009 by todd_vetter33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd_vetter33 Posted December 29, 2009 Author Share Posted December 29, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='27 December 2009 - 10:48 PM' timestamp='1261972117' post='2026753'] These doctrines, [Todd], to put it mildly, are not of sound judgement. These doctrines are not in accord with the Church, and they involve those who accept them in the greatest of impiety. These doctrines not even the heretics outside the Church have ever dared to publish. These doctrines were not passed down to you by the presbyters who came before us and who were the companions of the Apostles. -Irenaeus [/quote] Sound judgment is a judment defined by the Laws of God. If there is contention between what I share and what the Catholic church shares, You have to ask which is speaking according to the Law and the testimony of God. Who is promoting the commands of God and who is making excuses for breaking the commands of God. What I share with you is sound in every way based on the Laws and prophecies of God. I dare share because what I share is truth from God. If I have stated falsely in anything I have shared. Please illustrate on what Page and illustrate the false testimony being shared. You will find that everything shared is Catholic doctrine. Just put in the correct order of time to illustrate truth vs the lie. Here is the main study. [url="http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/the%20death%20and%20resurrection.pdf"]http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/the%20death%20and%20resurrection.pdf[/url] Once again here is the Exodus 12 - 16 breakdown illustrating that the original passover occured on occured on a Wednesday. [url="http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/First%20Passover%20of%20Exodus%20occured%20on%20Wednesday.pdf"]http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/First%20Passover%20of%20Exodus%20occured%20on%20Wednesday.pdf[/url] Please share in comparison how the current tradition you keep is a greater truth than what I am sharing by illustrating where I have testified falsely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 [quote name='todd_vetter33' date='28 December 2009 - 08:28 PM' timestamp='1262046509' post='2027006'] Can you convince a muslim that Jesus was the messiah and that what you just said in your above quote is truth from God? [b][size="3"]Proverbs 6:19 [/b][/size][font="Verdana,Verdana"][size="3"][font="Verdana,Verdana"][size="3"]A false witnesses who speaks [/size][/font][/size][/font][b][size="3"]lies[/b][/size][font="Verdana,Verdana"][size="3"][font="Verdana,Verdana"][size="3"], and one who sows [/size][/font][/size][/font][b][size="3"]discord [/b][/size][font="Verdana,Verdana"][size="3"][font="Verdana,Verdana"][size="3"]among brethren. [/size][/font][/size][/font][b][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"]dis·cord: [/b][/size][/font][/size][/font][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"](d s kôrd ) n.[/size][/font][/size][/font][i][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"]. [/i][/size][/font][/size][/font][b][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"]1. a. [/b][/size][/font][/size][/font][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"]Lack of agreement among persons, groups, or things. [/size][/font][/size][/font][b][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"]b. [/b][/size][/font][/size][/font][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"][font="Arial,Arial"][size="3"]Tension or strife resulting from a lack of agreement; dissension. [/size][/font][/size][/font][font="Times New Roman,Times New Roman"][size="3"][font="Times New Roman,Times New Roman"][size="3"]For unity in Christ and solid truth, one must speak the truth about God, from God, if they are to bare good fruit and deliver souls. [/size][/font][/size][/font][b][size="3"]Proverbs 14:25 [/b][/size][font="Verdana,Verdana"][size="3"][font="Verdana,Verdana"][size="3"]A [/size][/font][/size][/font][b][size="3"]true [/b][/size][font="Verdana,Verdana"][size="3"][font="Verdana,Verdana"][size="3"]witnesses delivers [/size][/font][/size][/font][b][size="3"]souls[/b][/size][font="Verdana,Verdana"][size="3"][font="Verdana,Verdana"][size="3"], But a deceitful witness speaks lies. [/size][/font][/size][/font]Did You share truth from God when you said it's not important what Day of the week Christ died? The difference is true vs lie. Did God command you not to tell a lie? A lie in ignorance will lead to discord. The truth will deliver souls. You and I have discord in understanding because one of us is not telling a truth from God. Who would that be? [/quote] Considering you are the one who seeks to sow discord, and you are the one who seems intent to proclaim greatly what you claim to be the truth...one would most likely like to see you prophesy a truth. For if one prophesies and even one thing does not come to pass, then that person is a false prophet and detestable in the eyes of God; for those who say they teach will be judged more harshly and those who knowingly lead others astray are said by Jesus to be in danger on the last day. So I ponder why you continue to post that which would point to yourself amongst all others as one who sows dissent and discord? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd_vetter33 Posted December 29, 2009 Author Share Posted December 29, 2009 (edited) [quote name='BG45' date='28 December 2009 - 08:08 PM' timestamp='1262048931' post='2027023'] Considering you are the one who seeks to sow discord, and you are the one who seems intent to proclaim greatly what you claim to be the truth...one would most likely like to see you prophesy a truth. For if one prophesies and even one thing does not come to pass, then that person is a false prophet and detestable in the eyes of God; for those who say they teach will be judged more harshly and those who knowingly lead others astray are said by Jesus to be in danger on the last day. So I ponder why you continue to post that which would point to yourself amongst all others as one who sows dissent and discord? [/quote] If you would like to see one prophesy a truth. See the information I have shared with you. Truth. The original passover fell on a Wednesday in the year that it occured. The Crucifixion of Jesus occured on a Wednesday. Truth, The whole Christian world is of the spirit of Anti-Christ. See informaiton at the link to understand why this is truth and prophecy from God. [url="http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/First%20Passover%20of%20Exodus%20occured%20on%20Wednesday.pdf"]http://www.thedeatha...20Wednesday.pdf[/url] [url="http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/the%20death%20and%20resurrection.pdf"]http://www.thedeatha...esurrection.pdf[/url] If you can find no lie presented. What does that mean to you. What will you keep? the lie or the truth? The discord that keeps you cut off from God was sown long before your soul entered your current tabernacle of flesh. Edited December 29, 2009 by todd_vetter33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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