Exodus 12 And Exodus 16 Validate A Wednesday Crucifixion

[todd_vetter33]

With Jesus claiming to fulfill all things in the Laws of Moses, prophets and Psalms. It's vital to mankind to understand the truth of the original Passover. In Exodus 16 there are time specific indicators given that when applied to the Jewish Clalender, validates that the original passover occured on a Wednesday.

The charts which illustrate this can be found at this link.

[url="http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/First%20Passover%20of%20Exodus%20occured%20on%20Wednesday.pdf"]http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/First%20Passover%20of%20Exodus%20occured%20on%20Wednesday.pdf[/url]

[Jaime]

Todd would you just get to the point? this crucifixion thing is getting to be a one trick pony

[todd_vetter33]

[quote name='hot stuff' date='27 December 2009 - 05:54 PM' timestamp='1261954459' post='2026639']
Todd would you just get to the point? this crucifixion thing is getting to be a one trick pony
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Would you get the point. Prove Jesus is real. You have a tradition and a theory based on fables and legends. Want world peace? Prove Jesus is real.

untill then you are in the darkness of your own imagination.

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Edited December 27, 2009 by todd_vetter33

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='todd_vetter33' date='27 December 2009 - 05:01 PM' timestamp='1261954901' post='2026646']
Would you get the point. Prove Jesus is real. You have a tradition and a theory based on fables and legends. Want world peace? Prove Jesus is real.

untill then you are in the darkness of your own imagination.
[/quote]

Prove "spirit and truth" is real. I'm not convinced that you even care, since you don't even capitalize it.

[todd_vetter33]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='27 December 2009 - 06:03 PM' timestamp='1261954991' post='2026648']
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Prove "spirit and truth" is real. I'm not convinced that you even care, since you don't even capitalize it. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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Did Jesus speak these words?

[list=1][*][b]John 4:23[/b]
But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in [b]spirit[/b] and [b]truth[/b]; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.[*][b]John 4:24[/b]
God is [b]Spirit[/b], and those who worship Him must worship in [b]spirit[/b] and [b]truth[/b]."[*][b]John 14:17[/b]
the [b]Spirit[/b] of [b]truth[/b], whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.[*][b]John 15:26[/b]
[ [i]The Coming Rejection[/i] ] "But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the [b]Spirit[/b] of [b]truth[/b] who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me.[*][b]John 16:13[/b]
However, when He, the [b]Spirit[/b] of [b]truth[/b], has come, He will guide you into all [b]truth[/b]; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.[/list]

I only share with you what God tells me to share with you. What you do with that is up to you.

[b]John 18:37[/b]
Pilate therefore said to Him, "Are You a king then?" Jesus answered, "You say rightly that I am a king. For this cause I was born, and for this cause I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the [b]truth[/b]. [u]Everyone who is of the [b]truth[/b] [b]hear[/b]s My [b]voice[/b]."

[/u]I hear God's voice. Do you? Did I share a lie with you when I said the original passover lamb died on a Wednesday? Did you know this fact? Did your church teach you this?

Very respectfully,

Todd

Edited December 27, 2009 by todd_vetter33

[Brother Adam]

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Edited December 27, 2009 by Brother Adam

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='todd_vetter33' date='27 December 2009 - 05:29 PM' timestamp='1261956575' post='2026655']
Did Jesus speak these words?

[list=1][*][b]John 4:23[/b]
But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in [b]spirit[/b] and [b]truth[/b]; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.[*][b]John 4:24[/b]
God is [b]Spirit[/b], and those who worship Him must worship in [b]spirit[/b] and [b]truth[/b]."[*][b]John 14:17[/b]
the [b]Spirit[/b] of [b]truth[/b], whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.[*][b]John 15:26[/b]
[ [i]The Coming Rejection[/i] ] "But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the [b]Spirit[/b] of [b]truth[/b] who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me.[*][b]John 16:13[/b]
However, when He, the [b]Spirit[/b] of [b]truth[/b], has come, He will guide you into all [b]truth[/b]; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.[/list]

I only share with you what God tells me to share with you. What you do with that is up to you.

[b]John 18:37[/b]
Pilate therefore said to Him, "Are You a king then?" Jesus answered, "You say rightly that I am a king. For this cause I was born, and for this cause I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the [b]truth[/b]. [u]Everyone who is of the [b]truth[/b] [b]hear[/b]s My [b]voice[/b]."

[/u]I hear God's voice. Do you? Did I share a lie with you when I said the original passover lamb died on a Wednesday? Did you know this fact? Did your church teach you this?

Very respectfully,

Todd
[/quote]
Tl;dr.

Let me get this straight....... Did you just ask someone to prove that Jesus is real, then quote the Bible to support your own made-up "spirituality"?

[todd_vetter33]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='27 December 2009 - 06:32 PM' timestamp='1261956779' post='2026657']
Tl;dr.

Let me get this straight....... Did you just ask someone to prove that Jesus is real, then quote the Bible to support your own made-up "spirituality"?
[/quote]

I quoted Catholic Doctrine which illustrates half the truth of what Jesus said. I can quote the G-12 text which will give you the other half of the truth, That God is both a father and a mother.

Or i could simply state that God is telling me to say this and you would belive I was making it up.

I am stating in my original post, that the Passover Lamb was Slain on a Wednesday, I am providing the Jewish writings and calender to prove this so that My words are not idle tales like yours.

What you do with this information is up to you. Those of the truth will hear God's voice. That is where you will find the true gospel. Look to be born again. Untill then you are just as dead as the day your flesh entered into the world.

God Bless

P.S.

Here is the link once again that validates that the Original passover Lamb Died on A Wednesday. Jesus fulfilled all things in the law of Moses which your church does not know how to illustrate. so I am sharing this illustration with you so that you can begin to learn what truht is.

[url="http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/First%20Passover%20of%20Exodus%20occured%20on%20Wednesday.pdf"]http://www.thedeatha...20Wednesday.pdf[/url]

Remember that truth is from God.

They are so many God's unto whom the spirit of God comes according to the Psalms and Jesus.

We are all born sons of man at physical birth, It's not untill spiritual re-birth that we become sons and daughters of God.

If my words and shared illustration are not sharing truth with you, BARE WITNESS.

Edited December 28, 2009 by todd_vetter33

[Jaime]

So according to you, Jesus isn't the Son of God.

[todd_vetter33]

[quote name='hot stuff' date='27 December 2009 - 07:10 PM' timestamp='1261959048' post='2026675']
So according to you, Jesus isn't the Son of God.
[/quote]


That would be according to you, since you made the above statment.

I said Jesus was a Son of God just as we are all to be sons and daughters of God. This only happens when one is in spirit and in truth, born again as the true worshippers of God are to be.

Jesus was the firstborn from the dead on the day of his baptism of water (repentance) and spirit (spritual re-birth) which fulfilled psalms 2:7

With out true repentance you will never be born again or a son of God just as Jesus was a son of God and the apostles after him who also received the same spirit Jesus received. Jesus being the firstborn is given the the right to pour out his spirit on those who purify the temple of the holy spirit.

Is your temple pure? you will know when it is, you will hear God's voice and you will be in spirit and in truth.

God Bless

[HisChildForever]

[quote name='todd_vetter33' date='27 December 2009 - 07:05 PM' timestamp='1261958750' post='2026671']
That God is both a father and a mother. [/quote]

Oh, I wonder if you belong to this "church" just a couple towns over from me.

[BG45]

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[todd_vetter33]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='27 December 2009 - 06:32 PM' timestamp='1261956779' post='2026657']
Tl;dr.

Let me get this straight....... Did you just ask someone to prove that Jesus is real, then quote the Bible to support your own made-up "spirituality"?
[/quote]

If you don't read it, It's your loss, yet the fact still remains that I am sharing with you a truth that has escaped the Catholic church for 2000 years. Did I make up this truth or did the Holy spirit within me share this with me in order to share this with you? That is a question you must answer for yourself or you risk leaving the world as empty as you entered it.

Here is the link. It takes a third grader with the ability to read about 5 minutes to read it. I posted a Wednesday chart and a Friday chart for objective comparison.

[url="http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/First%20Passover%20of%20Exodus%20occured%20on%20Wednesday.pdf"]http://www.thedeatha...20Wednesday.pdf[/url]

If you wish to be the swine that tramples pearls of truth into the mud, It's a choice you make. We all reap what we sow. Do you sow truth or Mud?

Very respectfully,

Todd

Edited December 28, 2009 by todd_vetter33

[Jaime]

[quote name='todd_vetter33' date='27 December 2009 - 07:17 PM' timestamp='1261959432' post='2026678']
That would be according to you, since you made the above statment.

I said Jesus was a Son of God just as we are all to be sons and daughters of God. This only happens when one is in spirit and in truth, born again as the true worshippers of God are to be.

Jesus was the firstborn from the dead on the day of his baptism of water (repentance) and spirit (spritual re-birth) which fulfilled psalms 2:7

With out true repentance you will never be born again or a son of God just as Jesus was a son of God and the apostles after him who also received the same spirit Jesus received. Jesus being the firstborn is given the the right to pour out his spirit on those who purify the temple of the holy spirit.

Is your temple pure? you will know when it is, you will hear God's voice and you will be in spirit and in truth.

God Bless
[/quote]

Well except Jesus was God and I'm not.

So either you think he wasn't God, or you think you're God.

[todd_vetter33]

[quote name='hot stuff' date='27 December 2009 - 08:10 PM' timestamp='1261962645' post='2026696']
Well except Jesus was God and I'm not.

So either you think he wasn't God, or you think you're God.
[/quote]

John 10
[size="2"][sup]34[/sup] Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your law, [i]'I said, "You are gods"'[/i]?[sup]35[/sup] If He called them gods, [b][u]to whom the word of God came[/u][/b] (and the Scripture cannot be broken), [sup]36[/sup] do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, 'You are blaspheming,' because I said, 'I am the Son of God'?
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[/size][size="2"]The baptism of spirit sanctifies the one who receives the spirit of God. I am a son of God in the same manner that Jesus was a son of God. Please illustrate in the bible where Jesus claimed to be God?

Is one sanctified when they receive a book (catholic doctrnie) which they have made their word of God? Or are they sanctified when they receive the voice of truth from heaven?

I can illustrate for you where He said His parent was greater than he. How then is he God. He did say he is one with God as I am now one with God through the law of God.

John 14:28
You have heard Me say to you, 'I am going away and coming back to you.' If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said, 'I am going to the [b]Father[/b],' for My [b]Father[/b] is [b]greater[/b] than I.


John 20
Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and [i]to[/i] My God and your God.'"

Those who receive the baptism of the spirit are just like Jesus!

Luke 20:36
nor can they die anymore, [b]for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God[/b], being sons of the [b]resurrection[/b].

There is much for you to learn. Start with the simple truths which I present in my original post.

God Bless
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Edited December 28, 2009 by todd_vetter33