Varg Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 ...Prayer does nothing. It's useless and makes no difference to anything. Why bother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Are you having a troll relapse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie-Therese Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 So I'm guessing the whole Odin thing must not be working so well, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Prayer does change things. Sometimes, like any good parent, The Father has to say no. That doesn't mean our prayers aren't listened to, or even answered in a way that we can't readily comprehend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varg Posted December 20, 2009 Author Share Posted December 20, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' date='20 December 2009 - 05:49 PM' timestamp='1261349381' post='2023686'] Prayer does change things. [/quote] Prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosey Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 We can't prove it to you Varg, because your heart isn't open. If I gave you an example you'd just say it was a coincidence when I know in my heart it was because I had faith and relied on God to hear me. I know this sounds stupid to you but it's worked out for me for quite a few years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 [quote name='Varg' date='20 December 2009 - 05:59 PM' timestamp='1261349944' post='2023697'] Prove it. [/quote] Keep seeking God, Varg. And you will find Him. He loves you and is waiting for you to open your heart. ~Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 (edited) [quote name='CatherineM' date='20 December 2009 - 04:49 PM' timestamp='1261349381' post='2023686'] Prayer does change things. Sometimes, like any good parent, The Father has to say no. That doesn't mean our prayers aren't listened to, or even answered in a way that we can't readily comprehend. [/quote] I take issue with the fact that "sometimes" = always. Edited December 20, 2009 by fidei defensor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 +J.M.J.+ it's not about my will but about His will and His plan for my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 [quote name='Varg' date='20 December 2009 - 04:40 PM' timestamp='1261348819' post='2023675'] ...Prayer does nothing. It's useless and makes no difference to anything. Why bother? [/quote] +J.M.J.+ varg, i don't know what's going on in your life right now, but i will pray for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 [quote name='fidei defensor' date='20 December 2009 - 05:31 PM' timestamp='1261351898' post='2023718'] I take issue with the fact that "sometimes" = always. [/quote] If you feel as if every prayer is ignored, perhaps you are praying for the wrong things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' date='20 December 2009 - 05:36 PM' timestamp='1261352202' post='2023722'] If you feel as if every prayer is ignored, perhaps you are praying for the wrong things. [/quote] I don't think happiness, health or safety are bad things to pray for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 This morning I prayed that you would start a silly thread. *high fives the room* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 [quote name='fidei defensor' date='20 December 2009 - 06:42 PM' timestamp='1261352570' post='2023724'] I don't think happiness, health or safety are bad things to pray for. [/quote] There not per-say but one must accept that sometimes the answer to those prayers is, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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