Sternhauser Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='19 December 2009 - 12:29 AM' timestamp='1261196967' post='2022981'] What is violence? [/quote] For the purposes here, I'll make a first postulation that it is the use of physical force to achieve compliance. ~Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 [quote name='Crazy_4_Christ' date='19 December 2009 - 12:33 AM' timestamp='1261197181' post='2022982'] Sternhauser, This is so unbelievably irrelevant you should be ashamed of yourself. But I shall answer your lame inquiry regardless. Latin is what puts the force not just in enforce, but also in force. Fortis...strong....get it? [/quote] Oh. So they'll use strong words if one prints a thousand books contrary to copyright statute. Excellent. ~Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_4_Christ Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 [quote name='Sternhauser' date='19 December 2009 - 01:36 AM' timestamp='1261197417' post='2022984'] For the purposes here, I'll make a first postulation that it is the use of physical force to achieve compliance. ~Sternhauser [/quote] You're so close... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted December 19, 2009 Author Share Posted December 19, 2009 [quote name='Sternhauser' date='19 December 2009 - 12:36 AM' timestamp='1261197417' post='2022984'] For the purposes here, I'll make a first postulation that it is the use of physical force to achieve compliance. ~Sternhauser [/quote] Typically violations of copyright result in fines, not jail time, which is the only physical force I could imagine you are referring too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_4_Christ Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 [quote name='Sternhauser' date='19 December 2009 - 01:38 AM' timestamp='1261197496' post='2022985'] Oh. So they'll use strong words if one prints a thousand books contrary to copyright statute. Excellent. ~Sternhauser [/quote] This is hardly the case. If you (or anyone else) were to print a thousand books contradicting copyright law, I highly doubt anyone would take notice. Oh and strong words often are morally justified Why, Sternhauser, do you feel the need to resort to useless and irrelevant arguments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 This debate reminds me of President Clinton asking for the definition of is or was, something silly like that. So instead of wasting my time with silliness, I think I'll go work on my next book for awhile, and hopefully Google will find it good enough to digitize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='19 December 2009 - 12:46 AM' timestamp='1261197995' post='2022989'] Typically violations of copyright result in fines, not jail time, which is the only physical force I could imagine you are referring too. [/quote] What is a fine? ~Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 (edited) You know, though, I don't find using digital copies of the work of the deceased to be wrong, even if it is still not in the (edit:) [u]public[/u] domain. Edited December 19, 2009 by USAirwaysIHS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' date='19 December 2009 - 12:49 AM' timestamp='1261198193' post='2022994'] You know, though, I don't find using digital copies of the work of the deceased to be wrong, even if it is still not in the private domain. [/quote] What about their families? ~Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_4_Christ Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' date='19 December 2009 - 01:49 AM' timestamp='1261198193' post='2022994'] You know, though, I don't find using digital copies of the work of the deceased to be wrong, even if it is still not in the private domain. [/quote] Copyright endures only 70 years after the death of the work's author. This is why we can have amazing organizations like Project Gutenberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' date='19 December 2009 - 12:25 AM' timestamp='1261196705' post='2022976'] Just for the record, I am paid a fee for the number of times my book is checked out at the library. It is called Public Lending Rights, and I just got a nice check from them. I also get paid when my book or articles are photocopied or duplicated by Access Copy Rights. Well, that is except for when Google did it. [/quote] Is that just in canada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='19 December 2009 - 12:55 AM' timestamp='1261198501' post='2022998'] Is that just in canada? [/quote] And under many other more protectionist States. ~Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_4_Christ Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 [quote name='Sternhauser' date='19 December 2009 - 01:52 AM' timestamp='1261198337' post='2022996'] What about their families? ~Sternhauser [/quote] It doesn't work that way. Again, this is irrelevant, but I shall answer your question with hope that you will someday retain all this new information. As I said, copyright endures for a full 70 years after the death of a work's author. The answer is in the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='18 December 2009 - 08:14 PM' timestamp='1261181670' post='2022859'] Wow, I have never been able to access an entire copyrighted book with Google books. [/quote] Me either. I also agree with your next point, most of the books I purchased in the last several years, I have read a paragrapgh or two on google book first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 [quote name='Crazy_4_Christ' date='19 December 2009 - 12:56 AM' timestamp='1261198573' post='2023001'] It doesn't work that way. Again, this is irrelevant, but I shall answer your question with hope that you will someday retain all this new information. As I said, copyright endures for a full 70 years after the death of a work's author. The answer is in the answer. [/quote] Crazy, you are talking about statute, not objective morality. And your tone is arrogant. Stop. ~Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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