Guest Daniel Nicholas Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 According to the most recent relevant [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurostat"]Eurostat[/url] [i]Eurobarometer[/i] poll, (conducted by the European Union based in Luxembourg) in 2005, 48% of European Union citizens responded that "they don't believe there is a God". [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism#Europe"]http://en.wikipedia...._atheism#Europe[/url] Belief in God: Germany - 47% United Kingdom - 38% France - 34% The Netherlands - 32% Denmark - 31% Norway - 31% Sweden - 23% Here is a graph using statistical results from the British Social Attitudes Survey from the United Kingdom showing trends in religion. Which shows a sharp decline in those who identify as Christians. [url="http://en.wikipedia....on-question.svg"]http://en.wikipedia....on-question.svg[/url] So, What is the Catholic explanation? And, do you find it ironic that the countries who spread Christianity in the first place are the first ones to give it up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 You're assuming that higher numbers indicated faithful Christians. I think there's more than one reason, but the decline began with the protestant revolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 how is he still here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimR-OCDS Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Winchester' date='15 December 2009 - 01:57 PM' timestamp='1260899849' post='2021054'] You're assuming that higher numbers indicated faithful Christians. I think there's more than one reason, but the decline began with the protestant revolution. [/quote] never mind [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/lol_roll.gif[/img] Jim Edited December 15, 2009 by JimR-OCDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didacus Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I use to worry about those numbers, but then I realized that they really did not matter. Faithfulness is not a question of counting beans. The fate of the Church is in God's hands no matter what we do; so I just take care of my own little pasture given to me from above. A better question would be why do people insist on defaming catholicism in whatever they say and do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 It's history. This particular decline began with the Protestant revolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimR-OCDS Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 [quote name='Winchester' date='15 December 2009 - 02:19 PM' timestamp='1260901146' post='2021069'] It's history. This particular decline began with the Protestant revolution. [/quote] By revolution, you mean the Reformation? Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 No. They didn't reform anything. They put themselves in the place of the corruption they claimed to be fighting. They revolted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 [quote name='hot stuff' date='15 December 2009 - 01:13 PM' timestamp='1260900807' post='2021064'] how is he still here? [/quote] We need SOMEONE to start controversies. The Muslims all left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 The muslims were kind of boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle_eye222001 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Percentages only tell half the story. Having 100% of a country be atheist is useless if the population is 5 or so. So while you see some decent percentages, you have to be careful with what belief you put in it. What would be more interesting is if they showed actual numbers of non-believers to believers and then compared it to something many years ago. I do not deny that atheism is on the rise, however to say Europe has given up religion is pretending the ballgame is won in the fourth inning when your still trailing by two runs. I partly blame the secularism of Europe on materialism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varg Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 (edited) Common sense. And black metal. Edited December 15, 2009 by Varg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 [quote name='eagle_eye222001' date='15 December 2009 - 01:24 PM' timestamp='1260901456' post='2021074'] I do not deny that atheism is on the rise, however [/quote] I do. Most people aren't atheists--they're simply hedonists at war with God. It's really antitheism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 [quote name='Varg' date='15 December 2009 - 01:25 PM' timestamp='1260901546' post='2021075'] Common sense. [/quote] Oh never mind, we have Varg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servus_Mariae Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Affectation trumping reason. Modern Philosophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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