Mark of the Cross Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='12 December 2009 - 04:15 AM' timestamp='1260551729' post='2018442'] Beautiful sentiments, but a papal diplomatic letter to the King of Mauritania has no dogmatic value. [/quote] It has sentiment and food for the soul, which is more important than dogmatic value! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pomak Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I would contend that he didn't, and it really doesn't matter. There is a long list of statements made by Christian leaders until about the 18th century which show a basic misunderstanding of Islam and its doctrines and beliefs. But having said that, the one possible way this pope might of been able to find a latin copy of the quran would of been via the Sicily conquest(the 1st christian ruler was a major fan of arab/north africa culture) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Islam_in_southern_Italy#Decline_.281037.E2.80.931061.29_and_Norman_conquest_of_Muslim_Sicily_.281061.E2.80.931091.29 It was about the same time so its not totally implausible. But I'd put it more to the particular pope's personality/character then any knowledge of arabic. Pitty it didn't carry over after his death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Anything apart from the rejection of Christ is rather unimportant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 [quote name='Mark of the Cross' date='14 December 2009 - 03:22 PM' timestamp='1260829348' post='2020623'] It has sentiment and food for the soul, which is more important than dogmatic value! [/quote] We will have to agree to disagree. The dogmas of Orthodoxy bring salvation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimR-OCDS Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 (edited) [quote name='KnightofChrist' date='14 December 2009 - 05:43 PM' timestamp='1260826989' post='2020585'] YOU HAVE NO PROOF. End of story. [/quote] Nor did I state it was a fact, but my guess. Jim Edited December 15, 2009 by JimR-OCDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 It's a liberal thing, don't sweat it. Feelings have gotten us wonderful things like progressive(ly difficult) taxation. And handouts, which have elevated the poor out of their problems. Now they live in squalor and filth and lawlessness, but they have cable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamiller42 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 [quote name='Winchester' date='15 December 2009 - 10:07 AM' timestamp='1260889675' post='2020920'] It's a liberal thing, don't sweat it. Feelings have gotten us wonderful things like progressive(ly difficult) taxation. And handouts, which have elevated the poor out of their problems. Now they live in squalor and filth and lawlessness, but they have cable! [/quote] Cable TV - The most effective welfare program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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