Apotheoun Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 (edited) A hypocrite is a person who pretends to possess virtues that he actually does not practice. Simply saying, "I am not a hypocrite," does not make a person a hypocrite. Edited December 10, 2009 by Apotheoun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='Varg' date='10 December 2009 - 05:35 PM' timestamp='1260484553' post='2017907'] How long? [/quote] 7 days. How long were you gone for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='KnightofChrist' date='10 December 2009 - 06:40 PM' timestamp='1260484839' post='2017911'] Yes, please Lilllabettt prove it. Really? Sure looked like you did just that, and also called me proud, and a hypocrite. [/quote] Okay, I should have said "make yourself LOOK like a Pharisee." It depends if you read the story of the Pharisee and think "thank God I'm not like the Pharisee" (which given the story is actually quite hilarious, that anyone would do that, wouldnt you say?) in your heart. Because what it LOOKS like here on PM is the story of the Pharisee was posted, describing a typical fault of Christians everywhere, (rash judgment of people/self-rigtheousnes, etc.,) and your reply was "I'm not a Pharisee." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='10 December 2009 - 05:42 PM' timestamp='1260484939' post='2017912'] A hypocrite is a person who pretends to possess virtues that he actually does not practice. Simply saying, "I am not a hypocrite, does not make a person a hypocrite." [/quote] Especially when that same person compares himself to St Paul and his statement that he was chief of sinners. Now if I completely denied being a sinner I could see how I would be a Pharisee and hypocrite, but I did not deny being a sinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 (edited) . Edited December 10, 2009 by KnightofChrist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='Lilllabettt' date='10 December 2009 - 03:45 PM' timestamp='1260485129' post='2017918'] Okay, I should have said "make yourself LOOK like a Pharisee." It depends if you read the story of the Pharisee and think "thank God I'm not like the Pharisee" (which given the story is actually quite hilarious, that anyone would do that, wouldnt you say?) in your heart. Because what it LOOKS like here on PM is the story of the Pharisee was posted, describing a typical fault of Christians everywhere, (rash judgment of people/self-rigtheousnes, etc.,) and your reply was "I'm not a Pharisee." [/quote] Wow, that is a nice clarification, because one should never judge merely by appearances. Too bad it is not an apology to KofC, but that would require something more from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='KnightofChrist' date='10 December 2009 - 06:45 PM' timestamp='1260485158' post='2017919'] Especially when that same person compares himself to St Paul and his statement that he was chief of sinners. Now if I completely denied being a sinner I could see how I would be a Pharisee and hypocrite, but I did not deny being a sinner. [/quote] So do you deny being a hypocrite? Cuz I doubt St. Paul would deny being a hypocrite. What with the "I want to do one thing and I do another" stuff he talked about ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 I don't think you're a Pharisee, Knight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 I am a hypocrite, btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='KnightofChrist' date='10 December 2009 - 03:46 PM' timestamp='1260485189' post='2017920'] Especially when that same person compares himself to St Paul and his statement that he was chief of sinners. Now if I completely denied being a sinner I could see how I would be a Pharisee and hypocrite, but I did not deny being a sinner. [/quote] Yes, plus the distinction between venial and mortal sin should be borne in mind by a Catholic. A man who is in a state of grace is not a sinner (in the mortal sense), although he may have committed many venial sins. Luther had a problem with this Catholic doctrine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='Lilllabettt' date='10 December 2009 - 03:48 PM' timestamp='1260485291' post='2017925'] I am a hypocrite, btw [/quote] That would only follow if you pretend to practice virtue, while actually doing the opposite. Don't confuse the fact that you - like me, and everyone other person - commit venial sins (and on occasion mortal ones). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 [quote]Okay, I should have said "make yourself LOOK like a Pharisee." It depends if you read the story of the Pharisee and think "thank God I'm not like the Pharisee" (which given the story is actually quite hilarious, that anyone would do that, wouldnt you say?) in your heart. Because what it LOOKS like here on PM is the story of the Pharisee was posted, describing a typical fault of Christians everywhere, (rash judgment of people/self-rigtheousnes, etc.,) and your reply was "I'm not a Pharisee."[/quote] The Pharisee did not see and denied his own sin,[b] I did not, I do not.[/b] I clearly stated I was a sinner, and a chief of sinners as matter of fact. The Pharisee did not do that or even come close. Again my full quote was thus "I am not a Pharisee. I repeat the words of Saint Paul "A faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into this world to save [b]sinners, of whom I am the chief.[/b]" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 ok, lets drop it, huh. Clearly I misunderstood. I think its likely you are not an actual Pharisee, okay. But I thought you should know what that comment looks like. (to me. maybe I'm wearing wierd goggles or sumtin.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Lilllabettt' date='10 December 2009 - 05:55 PM' timestamp='1260485724' post='2017932'] ok, lets drop it, huh. Clearly I misunderstood. I think its likely you are not an actual Pharisee, okay. But I thought you should know what that comment looks like. (to me. maybe I'm wearing wierd goggles or sumtin.) [/quote] Okey doke, but you are seeing things. Even so God Bless you sister! Edited December 10, 2009 by KnightofChrist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='KnightofChrist' date='10 December 2009 - 06:56 PM' timestamp='1260485789' post='2017933'] Okey doke, but you are seeing things. Even so God Bless you sister! [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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