General Discussion Of Islamic World

[rayz]

[quote name='HisChildForever' date='11 December 2009 - 06:10 PM' timestamp='1260551439' post='2018439']
So you believe that in some situations, the the Taliban is JUSTIFIED? Disgusting.
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Don't you believe in reading carefully? You know, like without picking and choosing only what you want to read?

Edited December 11, 2009 by rayz

[JimR-OCDS]

According to Greg Mortenson, author of the Book, "Three Cups of Tea," the majority of Afghan and Pakistani villages, oppose the Taliban. [url="http://www.threecupsoftea.com/"]http://www.threecupsoftea.com/[/url]

The problem they have is, the Taliban have the weapons and virtually nothing to lose. The village people on the other hand, are trying to support their families and eke out a living the best they can.

If the UN could get Iran to stop supplying the Taliban, they'd have a better chance.

Also, the villagers want their kids(both girls and boys) educated, so that they don't get drawn into Taliban run schools, where they receive radical indoctrination, and not much else.

Jim

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='JimR-OCDS' date='11 December 2009 - 11:16 AM' timestamp='1260555362' post='2018488']
The problem they have is, the Taliban have the weapons and virtually nothing to lose. The village people on the other hand, are trying to support their families and eke out a living the best they can.[/quote]
Sadly, that is often the case. The innocent are stuck in the middle, and it is probably a no win situation for them.

[quote name='JimR-OCDS' date='11 December 2009 - 11:16 AM' timestamp='1260555362' post='2018488']
If the UN could get Iran to stop supplying the Taliban, they'd have a better chance.[/quote]
That is probably an impossible task.

[quote name='JimR-OCDS' date='11 December 2009 - 11:16 AM' timestamp='1260555362' post='2018488']
Also, the villagers want their kids(both girls and boys) educated, so that they don't get drawn into Taliban run schools, where they receive radical indoctrination, and not much else.[/quote]
Good to hear.

Edited December 11, 2009 by Apotheoun

[Varg]

[quote name='JimR-OCDS' date='11 December 2009 - 01:16 PM' timestamp='1260555362' post='2018488']
The village people
[/quote]Made me smile

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='Varg' date='11 December 2009 - 11:28 AM' timestamp='1260556093' post='2018503']
[quote name='JimR-OCDS' date='11 December 2009 - 11:16 AM' timestamp='1260555362' post='2018488']
The village people [/quote]
Made me smile
[/quote]
That is a good one.

[homeschoolmom]

[quote name='Apotheoun' date='11 December 2009 - 01:34 PM' timestamp='1260556465' post='2018509']
That is a good one.
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(this is the New Village People-- the police guy is now a Firefighter...)

[HisChildForever]

[quote name='rayz' date='11 December 2009 - 12:46 PM' timestamp='1260553566' post='2018466']
Don't you believe in reading carefully? You know, like without picking and choosing only what you want to read?
[/quote]

And I quote, "Their portrait differs according to who's canvas you are looking at."

Give me a break.

[Pomak]

[quote name='JimR-OCDS' date='12 December 2009 - 05:16 AM' timestamp='1260555362' post='2018488']
According to Greg Mortenson, author of the Book, "Three Cups of Tea," the majority of Afghan and Pakistani villages, oppose the Taliban. [url="http://www.threecupsoftea.com/"]http://www.threecupsoftea.com/[/url]

The problem they have is, the Taliban have the weapons and virtually nothing to lose. The village people on the other hand, are trying to support their families and eke out a living the best they can.

If the UN could get Iran to stop supplying the Taliban, they'd have a better chance.

Also, the villagers want their kids(both girls and boys) educated, so that they don't get drawn into Taliban run schools, where they receive radical indoctrination, and not much else.

Jim
[/quote]
Ok lets get some basic facts understood.
1. I do not like the Taliban
2. in Afghanistan an "afghan village" is term that means nothing. Who are they? Pathan? tajik? hazari?...ect In Afghanistan tribe and ethnic background means a LOT. The taliban are mainly Pathan and those in Pakistan who also are pathan were supported and developed by the ISI(paki intelegence) for a long time, with the objective to use them against the Indians and the domestic opposition.
3. Taliban are massively anti-shia, Iran is Shia. Iran would sooner support AQ than support the taliban. Iran actually almost started a war with the taliban in the 90's. I seriously doubt they are supporting them. Most likley factions in the ISI are supporting them.

[JimR-OCDS]

[quote name='Pomak' date='12 December 2009 - 01:15 AM' timestamp='1260594912' post='2018874']
Ok lets get some basic facts understood.
1. I do not like the Taliban
2. in Afghanistan an "afghan village" is term that means nothing. Who are they? Pathan? tajik? hazari?...ect In Afghanistan tribe and ethnic background means a LOT. The taliban are mainly Pathan and those in Pakistan who also are pathan were supported and developed by the ISI(paki intelegence) for a long time, with the objective to use them against the Indians and the domestic opposition.
3. Taliban are massively anti-shia, Iran is Shia. Iran would sooner support AQ than support the taliban. Iran actually almost started a war with the taliban in the 90's. I seriously doubt they are supporting them. Most likley factions in the ISI are supporting them.
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Iran and the Taliban have some things in common. A fundamentalist view of Islam, and their idea that Islam is under attack from the West, especially the United States.

That being the case, they put asside their differences in order to attack us.

Fact is, Osama Bin Laden's son was in Iran receiving training and financial aid, before the attack on 9/11.



[b][size="2"]Taliban claim weapons supplied by Iran [/size][/b]

[b][size="2"]A Taliban commander has credited Iranian-supplied weapons with successful operations against coalition forces in Afghanistan

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[url="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/2958093/Taliban-claim-weapons-supplied-by-Iran.html"][size="2"]http://www.telegraph...ed-by-Iran.html[/size][/url]

[/b]Jim

Edited December 12, 2009 by JimR-OCDS

[add]

is it really permissible for a Islamic man to marry a minor girl? or to have up to four wives ?

Edited December 12, 2009 by apparently

[Pomak]

[quote name='apparently' date='13 December 2009 - 01:46 AM' timestamp='1260629219' post='2019067']
is it really permissible for a Islamic man to marry a minor girl? or to have up to four wives ?
[/quote]
What is an "islamic" man? If you are asking about a Muslim man, then both the man and the girl need to have hit puberty.

And it is permissible to marry up to 4, if one can treat them fairly. Most decide to go with one, and these days a lot of women decide to put a clause in their marriage contract that allows them to divorce if the man takes another wife.

And Jim, ok fair enough but I take that with a huge grain of salt. The US made the same claims in Iraq and they were going to exhibit the arms to the media to show the Iranian arms.... only to find that none of the arms were from Iran. But having said that, yes Iran does do this type of stuff. Its mainly so it can control the level of violence. Its propbably only a tactical decision rather than strategic alliance of some sorts. Most of the arms would come from the ISI side.