princessgianna Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 [url="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/comments_blog/2009/11/obama-bows-to-japan-emperor-akihito.html"]My link[/url] My problems with Obama bowing is 1) his bow was incorrect for two reasons 1)his hands should be at his side since he is a guy 2)since he is a leader of another nation at the very most his bow should be a [b]returned[/b] bow at a 45 degree angle-MOST. 90 degree bow was out of protocol. That was almost prostrate in Japanese terms. Have a little dignity Mr.Obama you are representing America. President Obama, Next time you go to bow-do your homework! thanks- PG~ The bow that Obama did was not at all fitting and the Emperor did NOT return the bow which meant that it was not proper to bow SINCE the emperor figured they are "equal" (both are leaders of nations). And it was obviously not according to agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizabeth09 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 If he is bowing, then he can not forse us to bow to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestertonian Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 (edited) I voted "no." We're Americans, we never bow down to a head-of-state. Edited November 23, 2009 by Chestertonian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 He can the minute he leaves office, but as long as he is President of the US, he should not be bowing, just as we never dip our flag at the Olympics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OraProMe Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Honestly who cares? I get that a lot of conservatives dislike the guy but surely there are better things to criticize than the way he bows (this reminds me of the Obabma golf thing). How petty. If it was an Australian Prime Minister the Emperor probably would have gotten a handshake and been offered a beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 [quote name='OraProMe' date='22 November 2009 - 06:52 PM' timestamp='1258937538' post='2007597'] Honestly who cares? I get that a lot of conservatives dislike the guy but surely there are better things to criticize than the way he bows (this reminds me of the Obabma golf thing). How petty. If it was an Australian Prime Minister the Emperor probably would have gotten a handshake and been offered a beer. [/quote] This is something non Americans can't understand, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OraProMe Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 (edited) America takes patriotism to a whole new level that others in many countries couldn't even imagine. It's really quite disturbing actually. "as long as he is President of the US, he should not be bowing, just as we never dip our flag at the Olympics." Why? Edited November 23, 2009 by OraProMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 As was explained in the other thread in Open Mic. It is against American policy and tradition to bow before Kings, Queens, and etc. It is a sign of servitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OraProMe Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Well that's the mentality I'm talking about. It's a sign of respect and America has no reason to think itself superior to Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 [quote name='OraProMe' date='22 November 2009 - 08:42 PM' timestamp='1258940528' post='2007627'] Well that's the mentality I'm talking about. It's a sign of respect and America has no reason to think itself superior to Japan. [/quote] No it is not, its the type of mentality you twist and bend to fit in the prejudged template you've made. The policy of not bowing to Kings is there for a reason, being concerned over the matter, seeing that it was wrong is not over analyzing. 'Conservatives' are being trashed simply because they analyzed the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philothea Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 [quote name='OraProMe' date='22 November 2009 - 08:21 PM' timestamp='1258939297' post='2007615'] America takes patriotism to a whole new level that others in many countries couldn't even imagine. It's really quite disturbing actually. "as long as he is President of the US, he should not be bowing, just as we never dip our flag at the Olympics." Why? [/quote] FWIW, I never understood it either, and I'm American. But I was raised by cats, so what do I know? (As princessgianna pointed out, that [i]is[/i] a wacked-out badly done bow. Whole different issue, though.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 If he had followed American presidential protocol he wouldn't have performed a whacked out bow, because he wouldn't have bowed at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OraProMe Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 [quote name='KnightofChrist' date='22 November 2009 - 08:49 PM' timestamp='1258940945' post='2007628'] No it is not, its the type of mentality you twist and bend to fit in the prejudged template you've made. [b]The policy of not bowing to Kings is there for a reason,[/b] being concerned over the matter, seeing that it was wrong is not over analyzing. 'Conservatives' are being trashed simply because they analyzed the issue. [/quote] What would that reason be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 It is a sign of servitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 [quote name='OraProMe' date='22 November 2009 - 07:17 PM' timestamp='1258942653' post='2007640'] What would that reason be? [/quote] The American people rebelled against a royal system of government, and established a republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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