Aloysius Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 This is a question of great canonical importance, obviously. So as I understand it, the 1917 Code of Canon Law places any newly discovered territory under the jurisdiction of the diocese from which the expedition which discovered that territory left; whereas, the 1983 Code of Canon Law would place any territory not already under an existing jurisdiction under the direct authority of the Pope. So it would seem to me that, being that the 1917 code of canon law was in place when the expedition left Cape Canaveral and landed on the moon, it claimed the territory of the moon for the Diocese of Orlando. The 1983 Code would only apply to places which hadn't yet been placed under the jurisdiction of a diocese and thus the moon is under the jurisdiction of the diocese of Orlando but, say, Mars is under the jurisdiction of the Pope no matter where the first expedition to land on Mars comes from. What do you think? This will be very important when colonizing the moon, we must know which bishop we'll have to petition for a parish to be set up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 [quote name='Aloysius' date='06 November 2009 - 03:07 AM' timestamp='1257491245' post='1997004'] This is a question of great canonical importance, obviously. So as I understand it, the 1917 Code of Canon Law places any newly discovered territory under the jurisdiction of the diocese from which the expedition which discovered that territory left; whereas, the 1983 Code of Canon Law would place any territory not already under an existing jurisdiction under the direct authority of the Pope. So it would seem to me that, being that the 1917 code of canon law was in place when the expedition left Cape Canaveral and landed on the moon, it claimed the territory of the moon for the Diocese of Orlando. The 1983 Code would only apply to places which hadn't yet been placed under the jurisdiction of a diocese and thus the moon is under the jurisdiction of the diocese of Orlando but, say, Mars is under the jurisdiction of the Pope no matter where the first expedition to land on Mars comes from. What do you think? This will be very important when colonizing the moon, we must know which bishop we'll have to petition for a parish to be set up! [/quote] I assume its whatever diocese where the rocket took off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zunshynn Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Technically that would be the case, except that the Bishop of Rome claimed it... and who's going to argue with him? From WDTPRS: [url="http://wdtprs.com/blog/2009/10/ares-launch-and-moon-trivia/#comments"]Here[/url] [quote]I am watching the launch of Ares via NASA TV. While watching I am chatting with a friend in Rome. He just reminded me that the Moon is under the jurisdiction of the Diocese of Rome. When man colonizes the moon and they have to set up a Catholic chapel, etc., it has already been decided by Rome that any space colonization results in the the extension of jurisdiction of the Diocese of Rome no matter which nation does the colonization. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted November 6, 2009 Author Share Posted November 6, 2009 haha yeah I saw that. I haven't seen the source though, and it's my understanding that this is based upon the 1983 code of canon law seeing any as yet unclaimed territory as under the jurisdiction of Rome (so those loonies that go out on boats to 'ordain' women outside of jurisdictions are actually under the diocese of Rome)... but my argument would be that the jurisdiction of Orlando has already been expanded to the moon under the 1917 code so it's not an unclaimed territory. it would depend on what exactly Rome said, but I think Rome's claim only counts for Mars and such, since the moon was already taken before Rome made the claim on space colonization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Moon men are an unreached people group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKolbe Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Ralph Cramden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoketos Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 The Universal Pontiff indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoketos Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 The Universal Pontiff indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 [quote name='Aloysius' date='06 November 2009 - 02:07 AM' timestamp='1257491245' post='1997004']What do you think? This will be very important when colonizing the moon, we must know which bishop we'll have to petition for a parish to be set up! [/quote] Archbishop Milingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccountDeleted Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Does it matter if the astronauts were Catholic or not? Just asking because if it depends on the first Catholic to land on the moon, might that make a difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenchild17 Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 I think the Pope should take charge of the moon and reassign someone like Cardinal Mahony there. Interesting thread idea here though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimR-OCDS Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Canon lawyers haven't address the question yet, because as far as we know, there are no people living on the moon. Should the time come, Catholics would be under the Bishop that canon law specifies. Being most astronaughts are in the military, they come under the US Bishop of military service men, woman and their families. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 The first man on the moon was a civilian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 [quote name='Era Might' date='06 November 2009 - 08:55 AM' timestamp='1257515736' post='1997045'] Archbishop Milingo [/quote] Is my witty comment going to go unremarked on? You can't get this kind of humor just anywhere folks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zunshynn Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 I did not get it, Era. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, because I'm sure it was funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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