Saint Therese Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Saudi court upholds child rapist crucifixion ruling Tue Nov 3, 2009 2:22pm IST Email | Print | Share | Single Page [-] Text [+] RIYADH (Reuters) - A Saudi court of cassation upheld a ruling to behead and crucify a 22-year-old man convicted of raping five children and leaving one of them to die in the desert, newspapers reported on Tuesday. The convict was arrested earlier this year after a seven-year old boy helped police in their investigation. The child left in the desert after the rape was three years old, Okaz newspaper said. International rights groups have accused the kingdom, the birthplace of Islam, of applying draconian justice, beheading murderers, rapists and drug traffickers in public. So far this year about 40 people have been executed in Saudi Arabia. In Saudi Arabia, crucifixion means tying the body of the convict to wooden beams to be displayed to the public after beheading. (Reporting by Souhail Karam; editing by Inal Ersan) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Is there any proof that this punishment deters crime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Therese Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 I don't know. However I think crucifixion is a pretty good deterrent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardillacid Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Oh well. Is anybody going to miss someone who raped 5 kids? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 If the news is trustworthy and the person committed the crimes. I don't trust their criminal justice system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Well as far as the man himself is concerned, it's just beheading. Why will he care if he's crucified afterwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 [quote name='dominicansoul' date='03 November 2009 - 10:08 AM' timestamp='1257268128' post='1995704'] Is there any proof that this punishment deters crime? [/quote] Would sure as hell deter me from doing anything. myself, i think they have the right idea in capital punishing rapists, especially child rapists. compared to murderers, all ive heard says they are generally incurable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Therese Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 [quote name='Jesus_lol' date='03 November 2009 - 01:29 PM' timestamp='1257272950' post='1995746'] Would sure as hell deter me from doing anything. [/quote] I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didacus Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 (edited) I find it very difficult to feel compassion for this man should he be truly guilty. This story pushes my sympathy for the victims more than anything. Edited November 3, 2009 by Didacus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithLuin Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 But, again...do we trust the Saudi Arabia justice system to have nabbed the right guy? If he's guilty, that's one thing, but a beheading is pretty final. There can be no retrial.... What a horrible, horrible, crime. I can't imagine being that three year old and wondering why life is so so terrible...raped [i]and[/i] left to die in the desert? I mean, you can't get much crueler than that. Not even if you crucify someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 But why crucifixion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Therese Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 [quote name='MithLuin' date='03 November 2009 - 09:33 PM' timestamp='1257302018' post='1995918'] But, again...do we trust the Saudi Arabia justice system to have nabbed the right guy? [/quote] I don't even trust our justice system to nab the right guy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Jesus loves the despicable man that committed these crimes. Remember that. that said, by murdering he has forfeited the right to his own life. his best course of action is to accept the just punishment that, in facing the punishment willingly, he might attain expiation. the act of actually finishing that forfeiture of his own life, the actual act of capital punishment, should not be torturous. the state has the right to finish his suicidal act (for all acts of homicide are suicides in that you forfeit your own right to live by committing them) by taking his life, but the state does not have the competence to give him the full just torturous pain that he deserves (and he deserves no less than at least the torture he caused those poor children). he will receive his just penalties in the afterlife. I am unclear as to whether the man will be crucified prior to beheading... but it would be more just to behead him than to crucify him while living. To not give the man capital punishment would be a tremendous act of mercy that he doesn't deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenchild17 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 [quote name='Aloysius' date='03 November 2009 - 11:12 PM' timestamp='1257311559' post='1995995'] Jesus loves the despicable man that committed these crimes. Remember that. that said, by murdering he has forfeited the right to his own life. his best course of action is to accept the just punishment that, in facing the punishment willingly, he might attain expiation. the act of actually finishing that forfeiture of his own life, the actual act of capital punishment, should not be torturous. the state has the right to finish his suicidal act (for all acts of homicide are suicides in that you forfeit your own right to live by committing them) by taking his life, but the state does not have the competence to give him the full just torturous pain that he deserves (and he deserves no less than at least the torture he caused those poor children). he will receive his just penalties in the afterlife. I am unclear as to whether the man will be crucified prior to beheading... but it would be more just to behead him than to crucify him while living. To not give the man capital punishment would be a tremendous act of mercy that he doesn't deserve. [/quote] +1 (in spirit) :mellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='03 November 2009 - 01:23 PM' timestamp='1257269009' post='1995710'] If the news is trustworthy and the person committed the crimes. I don't trust their criminal justice system. [/quote] Whose do you trust? ~Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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