Resurrexi Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Jesus is both true God and true man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted October 31, 2009 Author Share Posted October 31, 2009 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='31 October 2009 - 03:31 PM' timestamp='1257021095' post='1994499'] Jesus is both true God and true man. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark of the Cross Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Does the sun rise in the east? Do ducks swim? I don't think we need any reassurance do we? The God who created the universe and holds it in existence by his will alone, becomes a man too weak to bear a piece of timbers weight. "How could I have been your model if I had done it any other way? If you will be my other self, you too must accept all your human frailties without complaint. Peace be with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dairygirl4u2c Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 it's hard for me to accept paradoxes, that's why i hesitate on this issue. i hesitate more to say Jesus is not God than to say Jesus is God. ie, if Jesus is true God and true man, or if the father is God and the father is not the son, it's hard to say Jesus is God. we've had long discussions about this before, but it all comes down to the idea tht you have to accept the paradox. many in the orthodox church say there's no paradox, arguing things like 'it's like being french german' etc... though if that's the case, you're nhot truly german or truly french etc. it almost has to be a paradox. i think there's other ways the orthdox explain it, but im not sure how. i have no hesitation saying Jesus was one with God in more generic terms. or that Jesus never sinned, or that the spirit was within Jesus completely, or that they occupied the same being at teh same time. and stuff to that effect. to say Jesus is God though, it's hard for me to do. i say it, but there's always a bit of a hesitancy. if that means im a bad christian, so be it, that's just the way it is, God help me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissyP89 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 If the Holy Spirit can change hearts, can work miracles, can make love alive... Then surely He could impregnate a teenage girl. And that child would be no ordinary Son. Who could He be if not divine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dairygirl4u2c Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 i would say jesus is divine, definitely. an that mary was impregnated by the spirit. does that mean he's 'french german' equivalent, hybrid? i dunno. it's posisble there's a paradox sure. if he can do all that, he can make a paradox too, sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccountDeleted Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 [quote name='dairygirl4u2c' date='01 November 2009 - 10:10 AM' timestamp='1257030630' post='1994607'] it's hard for me to accept paradoxes, that's why i hesitate on this issue. i hesitate more to say Jesus is not God than to say Jesus is God. ie, if Jesus is true God and true man, or if the father is God and the father is not the son, it's hard to say Jesus is God. we've had long discussions about this before, but it all comes down to the idea tht you have to accept the paradox. [/quote] Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? (John 14:9) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizabeth09 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I belive that Jesus is God. Because there is Three Persons in one soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilde Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father so, yeah, basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKolbe Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Jesus is a friend of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 A very interesting poll. I, for one, would have been unable to predict that more than 90% of members of a Catholic forum believe that Jesus is God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgnatiusofLoyola Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 [quote name='dairygirl4u2c' date='31 October 2009 - 06:10 PM' timestamp='1257030630' post='1994607'] it's hard for me to accept paradoxes, that's why i hesitate on this issue. i hesitate more to say Jesus is not God than to say Jesus is God. ie, if Jesus is true God and true man, or if the father is God and the father is not the son, it's hard to say Jesus is God. we've had long discussions about this before, but it all comes down to the idea tht you have to accept the paradox. many in the orthodox church say there's no paradox, arguing things like 'it's like being french german' etc... though if that's the case, you're nhot truly german or truly french etc. it almost has to be a paradox. i think there's other ways the orthdox explain it, but im not sure how. i have no hesitation saying Jesus was one with God in more generic terms. or that Jesus never sinned, or that the spirit was within Jesus completely, or that they occupied the same being at teh same time. and stuff to that effect. to say Jesus is God though, it's hard for me to do. i say it, but there's always a bit of a hesitancy. if that means im a bad christian, so be it, that's just the way it is, God help me. [/quote] You may find (as I have) that, over time, it gets easier to accept paradoxes, because there are so many of them. I've found that two opposite things can both be true, or that I can have two (or three!) conflicting feelings at the same time about a subject. This may be not be true for everyone, so I am only speaking for myself. To me, in some ways Jesus can be seen as a paradox, and in other ways, he is the ultimate single answer. I have no idea if this is a theologically "politically correct" view, but I'm not sure I care that much what others think, except that I find it interesting to learn about others' personal experiences of God and what he has taught them. I tend to think that God is kind enough to meet us where we are, and helps us deal with the paradoxes, so, that even within in the unifying teachings of the Catholic Church, for example, there are as many different experiences of God as there are people. Generations of people in the past have been confused, and generations to come will also be confused. Not everyone, but some. Personally, I suspect more people are confused than admit it to themselves and others. But, thankfully, God, through Christ and the Holy Spirit, takes pity on we humans sometimes, and provides us insights to help us in our imperfect humanity. And, once in awhile, he provides us with great people who are both truly intelligent and wise, to give us role models and to help us understand. Many of them are Saints, but some are "ordinary" people, who really aren't ordinary, but are not widely known and recognized. Plus, to be an official "Saint," you have to be dead, and many of these saints are still very much alive. I realize this is a paradoxical answer, but it's the best I can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffpugh Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' date='13 July 2010 - 03:12 PM' timestamp='1279048369' post='2142133'] A very interesting poll. I, for one, would have been unable to predict that more than 90% of members of a Catholic forum believe that Jesus is God. [/quote] Yes, but 4 have given a no (at the time of this posting) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah147 Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 I'd give my life for this Truth. Jesus is God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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